Robin Dean: Dr crystal Lumi, who I know from. And I'll say it because I'm not sure you're, I don't know how this works, or if you're even allowed to, but I'll say that it's from uh, mass on my lip that this doctor who was on the show managed to cut out of my face, and he tolerated it really well. I mean, he was a good sport about, oh, did he get a soccer you know, I give out gold stars. I really wish it hadn't happened at a steakhouse and that if it actually used an actual scalpel. But in the end, it all worked out pretty good. Is there if we call you Crystal, how should we call you Crystal? Did I see your last name, right? Only crystal, please. I'm not at work, okay, but you are on call. I am so you know, if I have to look at the stupid phone and I'll, I'll try to tell him, leave me alone. This adds a little excitement to it. You know, you could disappear at any time. Yeah, it's a Friday. Anything could be going on out there. And that's why I'm on my fourth marriage, because men don't tolerate you disappearing at any time for all hours of the day and night. Poof, there's just a cloud in the shape of crystal just still floating there, and then then all of a sudden, just fades. Yeah, right, just like the cartoons. And it's amazing how often that happens during, like, unpleasant family events. Oh yeah, gotta go. Gotta go. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. I gotta go. Yeah, I got my phone call. We'll see in the old days when it was pagers, and it would just be but I could just say, Oh, we both had those. I will edit that out if I need to. We may be dating ourselves right then and there. I'll freely admit my age. And everybody says, What cheer how old I've seen the pictures on the Facebook. Lovely person.

Crystal Lumi: Oh, you're very sweet. Yeah, I have some. I'm trying to think of what I have on Facebook. I have some cheeky pictures,

Robin Dean: absolutely, at any rate. So Brian's got some really wonderful questions here for you. And we did correspond beforehand, thinking like, well, you know, I know she's a nice person. I know she rides. She dropped the the Ducati bomb on me. And I thought, Well, okay, we we're gonna have some things to talk about, but that doesn't really mean much. The real goal here is to inspire a fun conversation on your terms, and we'll just see how things play out. Feel free to have fun with it to your heart's content, Friday night. Let's have at it.

Brian Wringer: The first thing that came to mind when Robin told me, he texted me, he's like, Yeah, I'm having a chunk taken out of my lip and all this stuff. So did Robin get to keep that chunk and what did he name it? So I texted him like, he should call it Lipton or Philip.

Robin Dean: I'm letting him do this, by the way. Joe

Brian Wringer: Lippin do a Lippa truth. Lippert, anyway.

Crystal Lumi: I mean, if you put it in alcohol, could you call it Phillip Collins,

Brian Wringer: that's excellent. Philip Collins, Robin's gone like the drink. Yeah, Tom Collins, except to be a Phillip Collins, that's perfect. Everybody is now more upset because now I'm able to speak better than before, and that's not good for anyone, let alone the listeners. I don't know, I don't spend a lot of time looking at Robin's mouth or anything, but yeah, it did some amazing work stuff that's beyond any of us. So anyway, thank you again. You're so welcome. So you know you guys were talking while you were slicing away, or whatever it is you do, and you said you ride motorcycles as well? And Ducati, is that kind of unusual among you know, in the medical field? Yeah, I think especially trauma surgeons in particular, don't ride donor cycles, as they're called in the trauma room, for good reasons.

Unknown: Yeah, I did not know that you were a crazy person.

Crystal Lumi: Oh, was is that not included on my business card? Surgeon and crazy person, official crazy person. So then you're talking about the local commute. Hop on the bike, get to where you're going, going to the grocery store to just pick up a couple things. Going to see a friend going, you know, going to the Dairy Queen, which is always a good place to go on your motorcycle. Yes, true local to us. They just closed down rumble seats off of 14. It's no more. I saw that I drove into Spring Green last night to go to dinner at reunions, and yeah, it was closed. And I wondered, are they closed for the season, or like the finest milkshake I've ever had. Well, you're right there next to the cows, you know? How could it be bad? Well, if you were here right now, you would smell why I've been in Wisconsin in like, late September, early October, and yeah, there's a certain, there's a certain cheesy tang to the air the Roman yeah, there's a certain something going on there. I don't know what it is about this particular time of year, though. I don't know enough about cows and cheese and how that works. Oh yeah, we're talking about motorcycles, aren't we? Oh yeah, that's right. So the good question, how did you get started riding and you know, and how crappy was your first bike? My dad rode when I was a little kid.

Unknown: Did, I think he got his first bike in marriage, probably when I was about eight, and so I would go on rides on the back of the motorcycle. And then my brother, who's five years younger than me, got a dirt bike when he was eight, and I was five years older, so I learned how to ride it, although my my father said girls don't ride motorcycles. I'm like,

Brian Wringer: had the opposite effect, right? My brother taught me how

Unknown: nice, and so when my dad didn't know I would ride the bike, but you know, officially, I wasn't permitted to, there's one

Brian Wringer: of those little whatever Honda dirt bikes.

Unknown: Yeah, two stroke. That sound like a two stroke to me. Yeah, very good, very good.

Brian Wringer: We know dad found out at some point what happened.

Unknown: He just said, Okay. He found out when I went to college and I got, yeah, I couldn't afford a real bike, but I got a scooter, which, you know is not the same, but you're in the air and you're moving. So

Robin Dean: people do race them. I see clips of legit, known motorcycle racing names, and they just have these exhibition goof off things, where they're all in full leathers at the track, on scooters, on step through motorcycles, and they're they're going at it. They're fully tucked they're riding them as assertively. I don't use the word aggressively. I always say assertively. It's quite something to see. How can you turn down 75 miles to the gallon

Brian Wringer: as a college student? Yeah, that was heaven on earth. It cost me 50 cents to fill the dang thing. Yep, it looks awesome. Half gallon tank. You could run around all week. Was that one of those where you had to put the oil in the little tank next to the gas tank? Yeah, yeah. I remember those in the 70s, 80s. You know, they were all two cycle engines, and then later on, they cleaned them up. Yeah,

Unknown: this was, I think, 84 or 85 it was awesome. I mean, for a college student, it was perfect transportation until it got stolen. Oh, so I go to the impound lot, they call me and say, Hey, we got your bike. I'm like, great. And I call it, it's in pieces. Yeah, they had you a box. Here is your box of transportation. Here you go. That kind of thing was always been to happen. I mean, the thing that led me to ride motorcycles at all was the day that I finally realized, wait a minute, I'm allowed to do this. You don't need anybody's permission. Yeah, I

Robin Dean: pay for a mortgage. There's nobody that I need to answer to. I want it. I'm not even gonna reason with what, like a lot of people talk about in sales, how we legitimize the purchase? I don't need to legitimize anything. I just want it. I'm gonna do it. So you did you bought the right thing to buzz around town on and, wait, wait, wait, wait, I happen to know this as inside information. But so when you were in school the first time, what was that degree?

Unknown: I started in music. I started as a flute performance major, and then I quit for a couple reasons, mostly to put my evil first husband through law school, which he quit three days in.

Robin Dean: Ah, now your current husband's a lawyer too. Yes. Number four, yes. I'm not making any story of this, or any combo of this, just seeing where that goes. Yeah. It'd be great if he was the one that was the prosecution against your first husband. That would have been fantastic.

Unknown: Oh, that would have been. That would have been a real dice roll. Yeah. You know, we've joked because he in Minneapolis, Twin Cities area, and you know, we have so many of the same haunts that we used to go to. And I joke, how many times did we cross paths and just not know it? Yeah. So I was a flutist, and I dropped out of school and played professionally while I put my husband into law school, I'm not gonna say through, into into and then he left. Okay. I'm like, Oh, well, okay, then

Robin Dean: impossible for me to not fall back on it. But I was walking the dog through the woods, and I was thinking about, well, we're gonna be talking to her today. The motorcycling. Then I remember the music, and I immediately started hearing the narrator for the stova books, in my head, we had to listen to him for basic music history, and I heard that voice that cantata, Johan Sebastian, Bach number one. And then they'd play the music, and I'd fall asleep and I'd wake up and take the test, neither here nor there that shook loose a weird one. It's still a musician. You once you're a musician, you're always going to be one sort of, oh, yeah, but that, I want to bring something back here. It's an interesting question about when you're among your peers, high up on that shelf, doing what you do, does the topic of your motorcycling come up often? Yeah? And if slash when it does, how regularly do they defer to the dangers you really ride? Any of that? Do you get it a lot, yes, what are some of the more interesting? Namelessly speaking, doesn't even have to be where you're currently, at your current residence.

Unknown: Oh, sure. Well, you know, often the discussion revolves around, well, how much life insurance do you have? Yeah, kind I've heard that one, very nice of you to ask, and it's, it's like, Why do you care? I'm gonna add you to the policy. Yeah, I had one. ER doc say, so if you come in and your brain dead, do you Bonnie, me even try to intubate you? Okay, thanks, yeah. And now for our next comedy joke. Yeah,

Brian Wringer: one time I was out on a ride and I got a call, my mom was in a car accident and broke her wrist. Well, so I say, Okay, guys, see you later. Here's here's a map. Figure something out. Bye. So I went up to the hospital, went in. You know, her surgeon comes in is like, okay, yeah, we're gonna, you know, her wrist is blah, blah, blah, tibia, whatever it is in there, ulna, radius or ulnar, yeah, you can tell we're not doctors here, phalanges anyway. He's like, Oh, you're right. A motorcycle, uh, here, here's my card. You're gonna need it. Like, oh, really, dude, my mom's hurt.

Unknown: Get out. Surgeons are not the most emotionally developed human beings on the planet, in

Brian Wringer: general, some of them, some of them, maybe I don't know.

Robin Dean: Here's my card. Call me

Brian Wringer: to be honest. Full disclosure, I've broken my left leg three times a motorcycle accidents I still ride broke on my right wrist two times. Well,

Unknown: start putting your bike down on the other side. Break a different one.

Brian Wringer: Even it out a little bit. There's no way I'm editing that out. Why is it always on the left? Don't know. That's the way you put the bike down. Same damn femur every time. Actually, most people put the bike down to the left. Yeah, yeah. You see that off road too? For some reason.

Unknown: I don't know why it is, but I Yeah, most of the injuries are on the left side.

Robin Dean: For a lot of people that are gonna crash no matter what, we always advocate maintaining skill. We always ride adcat. Everybody needs to continue learning. Otherwise we stagnate. But the people that are typical to an accident aren't as comfortable turning to the right as they are to the left, because when you're turned to the right, your throttle is by your

Unknown: waist right, and I think you're pulling the brake harder. In an accident, it might let up on the

Robin Dean: Yeah, without the skill needed to maintain self control at the handlebars, we always say, you know, sitting on a bar stool typing an email, you can't type if you're leaning on the keyboard, so you want to stay relaxed. And everything you do is about maintaining your composure, focusing on your core, but turning to the left, your hand is further away, and there's a lot more isolated control when you can see and feel it's all right there. I am talking too much. He said, I have three broken femurs for motorcycle. Is it weird to ride to ortho appointments?

Brian Wringer: I always made a point of I'd get my little folding cane start riding to the appointments as soon as I could just I don't know if people were like, This guy's hobbling in here with a helmet. What the hell I'd

Unknown: love to see the crutches, you know, threaded through the backpack. Yeah? Crisscrossed, yeah, yeah. Crisscross.

Brian Wringer: They gave me the sexy granny Walker, I guess.

Unknown: Oh yeah. Those are great, aren't they?

Brian Wringer: Oh yeah, those fold up pretty well. Usually I'd wait till I could get around on a cane so forth. One of the things I found is if I found a doctor who was more into sports medicine, where it's about getting you back to what you do, then there was like zero crap. And it's a luck of the draw, depending on when you if you get the one who's just not really oriented toward in that way. They do tend to give you a lot of crap. Yeah, it's joking, in a way, but Well, clearly you shouldn't be doing this anymore. Okay? Well,

Unknown: yeah, especially as you get more gray hair, they get a lot more judgmental. Yeah, you're

Brian Wringer: too old for this crap, you know? Like, oh, this is good timing, yeah. And even I can't explain why I feel like I need to ride.

Unknown: Well, that's why it's the riding obsession, right? Yeah, yeah, we're

Brian Wringer: obsessed.

Unknown: I am. I had for a while before I met my current husband. On my Facebook profile, it said I'm not single. I'm in a relationship with power and speed. If it showed a motorcycle, nice.

Brian Wringer: All I know is Ducati what? What are you riding now? And how did you end up with the Ducatis?

Unknown: I've had a variety of things. I had a little Indian for a long time, and then that also got stolen, and that really pissed me off. This is four. Years ago.

Brian Wringer: Okay, so it was an older, okay, one I it was an old Indian. Was it one of those where they made, like, these little they call them dual sports now, but like a scrambler or something, and one of those

Unknown: like that I can pick, yeah, so small. Oh, cool. You know, because I'm a relatively vertically challenged, finding bikes that I can ride is a problem. Yeah, I had a gap in riding from about 28 to 42 because husband number two said, you can be married to me, or you can ride a motorcycle and you can pick I married him. Okay? He didn't want to be left as a single dad, just because I have a need for speed. So that's when I got my first Mazda Miata.

Robin Dean: Oh,

Brian Wringer: nice. Yep, that

Unknown: was the trade off. I'm like, if I can't, I will recycle. I'm getting a really good convertible. Yeah? Well, I think cliche Gold Wing. Oh, you didn't say, Well, yeah, it's

Brian Wringer: almost no. I didn't say, but it's almost Yeah, it's almost a cliche, but I can't hold my bike up anymore. I'm going to get a Miata. I know people who have done exactly that.

Unknown: It's a good transition, yeah, yeah. You can still go really fast, and if small and maneuverable, you have the wind in your hair, yeah? Except you have four wheels

Robin Dean: in roll cage 'em. You can track 'em. We always say that you can ride your motorcycle in any manner you wish, using whatever techniques you wish, so long as you choose the correct venue, street riding versus hitting the track. The racetrack is the place for speed you can take stunting courses. You can do slow maneuvers, cone courses as a challenge and drifting. All these things exist. We're allowed to do whatever we want, just a matter of being respectful of what venue we choose to perform these actions in. What are you riding out? Well, thanks. What do you want to ride next.

Unknown: Ah, Ducati Monster. That's such a great bike. Burst their whispers. I don't care about the husbands.

Brian Wringer: They're bumped

Unknown: up then I rode a Harley. 100th anniversary soft tale.

Brian Wringer: I can picture that

Unknown: great, heavy bike.

Brian Wringer: They're easier to handle than than it looks, aren't I think,

Unknown: yeah, I thought so too. It's so well balanced, unless you put it down, you know. And I was stronger then, but Harley made a 100th anniversary edition of their soft tail.

Robin Dean: Yeah, I'm looking at it. Yeah.

Unknown: I have the classic biker chick picture with that. I'll have to send that to you, Robin.

Robin Dean: Oh boy,

Unknown: it might even be on Facebook. I might have that one on Facebook.

Brian Wringer: Got the chaps, you got fringe.

Unknown: I got a leather vest and jeans and boots, good

Brian Wringer: stuff, bandana. I think that's part of it too. I

Unknown: don't know. I rode that until divorce from husband number three, and then the bike was a point of contention. So, as you do in divorces, you chew your leg off to get away and left the bike.

Robin Dean: Oh, ouch, yeah. What

Unknown: can I say? I haven't had a regular bike for a while, but during that time, I lived with my brother, he had a victory. He's big into he's a real Motorhead, and he's in one of these Japanese, vintage Japanese motorcycle clubs in Minneapolis. Oh, yeah. And they have a collective where they all come together and they play and work on their their bikes together. Vin

Robin Dean: modo, so there's Chai. Vin moto for Chicago. Milvin Moto for Milwaukee, we got mad. Venmoto, which is pretty cool. You're talking about Minnesota, I'm sure it's a vinmoto based environment, yeah, Minneapolis, we've taken part in that many times, so I'm very familiar with it. That's cool. And he was into metric bikes, which is great, yeah. So

Unknown: I got to write, you know? I got to play around with lots of bikes and hang around and go on rides and borrow but right now I'm in a drought,

Robin Dean: and this led to a conversation that I can't wait to land right on Brian's shoulders, only for the ease of wrenching and the simple maintenance and parts availability that are clearly priced right. What bike are you thinking about

Unknown: next on Jones and for a Ducati Monster? Nice. I did not know how you were gonna respond to that. We've talked about the monster. Do you like to wrench on bikes? Have you wrenched on your bikes in the past? I would imagine you've definitely got the facility to do it. More so than yours truly here. Well, you know, I grew up with a dad who was a tinkerer and a carpenter, and my brother's a Motorhead, so you just spy osmosis, pick up a lot of things. Plus, I mean, I'm a body mechanic, yes, get that body mechanic? Yes, yeah,

Robin Dean: I smell what you're cooking, picking up what you're laying down. I don't know this conversation probably never actually happened, but the running joke was, I. A mechanic and a surgeon are sitting in a bar. They are a heart surgeon, and the mechanic says, you know, what I do is very similar to what you do. I pull the carburetor out of the bike, I repair the carburetor, I put it back in. You work on the heart of the human body, put it back together. You know, there's a lot of similarities. What do you think the biggest difference is? The surgeon thinks for a good long while and says, Why don't you pull the carburetor out and fix it while the engine is running

Unknown: like that, it's like level up. Well, I

Robin Dean: don't even know why I'm saying this. I think I would become extremely frustrated with a bike like the Ducati Monster, just because all of the cartilage of it, just trying to figure out, okay, the air filter. We've cliched this joke. Want to replace the air filter, disassemble everything that is not the air filter. And I don't know if the monster is truly like that, but the trellis frame, I mean, it doesn't change the fact that when you look at the bike, it's like, ooh, la, la. It's just such a it is a great looking bike. Yeah,

Unknown: you know, to kind of swing to the other side. The other thing I'm thinking about and I went and looked at, is a groan. Oh, you got both. You're allowed to have both. Get both. Yeah, both, both is the answer. Yes. Absolutely the answer. I want to sign up both. Dr, Crystal Lumi pulled over on the side of the road in cuffs because she was riding one of those dwarfism unicycles to the grocery store, fully modded out loud pipe, just wheeling everywhere, stoppies and all that. I'd make my day. That's a great thing. I

Brian Wringer: had a neighbor across the street who, she's a lady of a certain age, yeah, little tiny lady, and had had a Grom and, like, just buzzed all over town, you know, I helped her get it running, you know, one time when it had a bad battery. And then she actually had two of them. So her, when her daughter was visiting, they could buzz around on their Groms. It was crazy, as funny as hell, awesome. And then her daughter moved away, so she sold one, and I got it running, but yeah, they're fun little guys.

Unknown: I'm gonna put you on the mic and, like, put the spotlight on you. Then, based on these responses, number one, take a moment with this. Why to cot eight. They're beautiful as hell. Okay? And number two,

Brian Wringer: my husband has one. Okay, obviously you need a pair. Yeah, I'll be

Unknown: honest, I had kind of heard of Ducati, but I'd never seen one, and then never he has an 848, evil course, yeah? Okay, lovely bike, and he won't let me touch it or walk within a foot of it. Full tuck race replica. Yeah, that's a great bike. I've, I've negotiated with them at the racetrack. Once or twice we've negotiated they're a contention machine. It's great. He got me kind of hooked on the Ducati. I think they're beautiful. We went out to Las Vegas recently, and eurocycle showrooms huge. I kind of like the Moto gutsies too. Those are kind of sweet looking bikes. You can get them a little lower, which, again, my problem with the Super bikes is that they're just too tall for me. At five one, it's a stretch. Literally, yeah,

Robin Dean: and lowering them creates very strange geometry. I've learned that the hard way, several times. Yeah, it doesn't work. When Maggie got she's on a Triumph Street Triple, I wanted her to be comfortable, and she wasn't planning on racing it, so we lowered it, and that brings the front wheel closer to the motor. I didn't think about all that was happening. My spatial geometry kicked in. I was like, Oh, I've done a bad thing here. And she's, she's one foot again now.

Brian Wringer: So have you ever considered that, just like the single foot, one foot down at a stop, at a toe, yeah, like there's more than one monster. Which do you have an idea which one you're looking at?

Unknown: See now you're going to ask me technical questions. That's what I have my technical consultant for. No, I don't know which monster? How

Brian Wringer: many? Let's see. How many monsters do they have? Well, they got the monster and the monster plus monster plus monster SC monsters. That's

Robin Dean: basically the the monster Plus is a taller, rounder, a dual 17 inch wheel, yeah, high suspension. And on the Wisconsin roads, that's not so bad, but it is something that a lot of people would have to use the what we call the fancy start with, and then the current iteration of the monster. It's almost as though they bred the SV square tube frame with a Honda CBR series with that modern trapezoidal headlight. The one I always loved was the one that was a lot more hollowed out. It was just a trellis frame, yeah,

Unknown: and I think I'd probably look at an older one like that,

Brian Wringer: like some of the older Ducati models, not older, but you know, our air cooled ones at 696, right? You know, the ones without the radiator are going to be a little lighter. You still have to service the belts. And all that stuff.

Unknown: Yeah, but then they're not good short rides because they get too hot. That's the only problem with air cold engines is that if you're not putting enough air over them, check out

Robin Dean: the photos. We talked about the trellis frame. The original Ducati Monster 1000 had that very SVS, round headlight, full trellis, all access frame. And it's strange that with the generations. You can watch the trellis get covered up. So the next generation took a quarter of it away, then another quarter, then another, and now it's all sheltered and inaccessible. You know, take up to the dealership. We've had an episode about that alone.

Unknown: Yes, my husband's evil course, just came back from Milwaukee's Ducati shop a month ago.

Robin Dean: He's happy. Oh, he

Unknown: loves it. He loves his bike.

Robin Dean: Well, I guess if you guys specialize in something like Ducati, you best get it right. So Ducati is sort of like on the horizon for you. You're feeling it. It's a wanting. Yeah, there's a yearning there. Have you any plans, and have you had any experience? Have you taken a bike like that to the track at all, done any track riding?

Unknown: Because I don't have a bike right now. I have my second Miata.

Robin Dean: Oh,

Unknown: my first Miata I destroyed. We'll just put it that way and leave it at that. But my second one, I decided I wanted one with a little more OOM and so founded on eBay in 2013 my Miata was modified by Ryan pila, who is a Miata racer, nice Out of the Hamptons. So he made two Miatas identical to break the land speed record at Bonneville Salt Flats. And mine is the twin of the one that broke the speed record. Because, you know, you have to have a spare in case there's a problem. How

Robin Dean: cool is that

Brian Wringer: I was wondering why you were calling Miatas fast, and now I know

Robin Dean: this brings up two previous episodes, by the way, three episodes back was when we did part two of the trip sevens tour, and we got not stuck behind a Miata on the dragon. That driver was fantastic. And when they were not so fantastic, they just pulled over and let us go by, and they were right on us the whole time. It was pretty brilliant to witness. It also brings up the land speed rich episode. I need to reach out to Rich scheidlike, who's a land speed record guy on motorcycles at the salt flats. Ryan pila, yep. I'm looking at this fire engine red front end with the custom front rims for less drag and the transitional fade to yellow. Oh, that car is on fire. Mine is just plain black, a sleeper here, yeah,

Unknown: but it's got a roll bar and it had racing harness. I swapped the racing harness out when I got it to put in regular seat belts, just because the harness was uncomfortable for long rides. And at that time, I was living in Tennessee and working in Minnesota, and drive back and forth between the two. And let me tell you, Missouri Highway 35 two in the morning. Great place to just bury the pebble.

Brian Wringer: Allegedly, allegedly,

Robin Dean: yeah, so you've heard so it's real. It's Google. Google told us, we may or may not have found the same articles on Google about Missouri 34 which is equally stupendous, especially on two wheels. And I would imagine that whoever wrote about that for Google would say that that was track grade pavement.

Unknown: 35 is a freeway, four lane, two lanes each way, and in the middle of the night, you know, there's no traffic on or off. You don't have to worry about T boneding somebody that didn't stop for the stop sign.

Robin Dean: Did you manage to ever track that car?

Unknown: No, I was going to take it to Road America this year, here in Wisconsin, in Plymouth, I'm familiar, yes. However, I had to get it taken in because I have some issues with the linkage, and I just got it back today. My wonderful husband went to lacrosse and got my baby and I came home and it's in the driveway today, so

Brian Wringer: and you're sitting here talking to us, yeah, we're in the way, is what we are. Do you have a favorite resource for that next

Unknown: opportunity to really break three digits in your Miata at Road America, or something like that? I'd break three digits.

Brian Wringer: Now, come on now, look at this face. If you were a cop, would you give her a ticket? I would be like, No, ma'am, you you keep being awesome. Ma'am. Go on.

Unknown: So I have to tell you the story 2021 I had just moved here to Richland Center, and my lease was up on my Audi, you know, for. Fun. I decided to lease an Audi for three years, and it was great. I got an Audi s4 which is just a beast. It's a four cylinder, but man, can it go? My lease was up, and I was taking it back to the dealer, and I was on I 90, going from La Crosse into Rochester, going about a year four. You are my doctor, and my husband was behind me. You are my doctor. You're my because I needed a ride home. You're my doctor. I have found if I could have a surgeon as a general practitioner, you got the job? Okay? Well, you know, if I get a little too shaky and I have to cut back. I'll let you know. And I come over this crest, and I'm thinking, you know, I really should slow down. And I passed this car parked on the side, and I didn't register, but the little cherry lights came on and, like, bleep. My husband pulls up right behind him. You know the cops at my window, and he's looking back like, what the is going on? Do you know why I pulled you over? Yes, officer, I was going a little too fast. Let me count the ways that I know why you pulled me over exactly. And he says, Well, do you know how fast you were going? That's No, no, I do not no, the answer is no. And I thought to myself, they'll impound the car. And I said, maybe 90. Oh, you may, but you gave him a number. That's never, uh, okay, well, no, see, even my lawyer husband has not told me this.

Robin Dean: Never say the number got it. Never say the number fell. A friend of me and Brian always gets out of it just by being this humble looking, kind looking guy, Little do they know? And

Unknown: I was thinking to myself, gosh, how fast did he clock me going? Because I really wasn't sure,

Robin Dean: at least the speed limit 70.

Unknown: So then my husband walks up and he says, officer, she's taking this car back. The lease is over today. She hasn't been able to drive it for months. And you know, if she aired it out a little bit, you know, I'm just so sorry. He gave me a ticket for 99 we're mostly more.

Robin Dean: There it is.

Unknown: I don't know how fast I was really going. He said, I only charged you for 99 miles an hour, which is still not saying nothing I half expected you to say. So basically, he tases my husband and then PR seems to give me a ticket for Yeah, well, see when my husband gets pulled over. Yes, there was one time he has this, uh, gorgeous, 370, Z that then can move one time. Was maybe two years after we started dating, and we're on the i 90. The cop pulls them over 10 at night. We're just coming back from dinner, and the cop says, Well, you know, sir, you were speeding. And he says, Well, if you had a car like this, wouldn't you speed too? And I'm like, shrinking, I

Robin Dean: don't remember. I'm thinking

Unknown: to myself, A, the cop doesn't make in a year with this car probably costs. B, you just were an asshole.

Brian Wringer: How did I go? Did it turn out well, that did not turn out well,

Robin Dean: one of my favorites, and I won't mention names, I'm I don't even know if I've told this story before, because it's one of a recent it's a recent one, but I do remember that in the middle of the night, a friend blew through a red light in a very small town. Nobody was awake 3am and this friend, they just knew nobody around, and they just softly go through the light, maybe nine or 10 miles over the speed limit, and they get pulled over. The officer knows this person says, What are you doing, man? And the driver says, I'm just going the speed of traffic. And the obvious officer looks around and he's like, the hell are you talking about? There's nobody on the road right now? And the driver says, well, somebody has set the pace. Nice, come back. I don't want the chance to use that, but if I ever have to use it, I will pull that right out of the arsenal. What about touring and travel? You said, if you were down by Tennessee and North Carolina and Arkansas and Missouri and then Minnesota again at some point, and now you're here. Do you seize the opportunities to travel, be it on a bike or in one of your four wheeled bikes, as you have right now? Have you toured on the any bike before? This is something you look forward to doing in

Unknown: the future. It is something I look forward to doing. Yeah, I did from about 2007 to 2013 I took a number of weekend road trips, and that was a blast. Toss some things in saddlebags, and then off you go for the weekend. That's really awesome. Any favorite destinations? Smoky Mountains are beautiful. I. Although it's really kind of a pain in the butt because he gets stuck behind people.

Robin Dean: There's either the parkway or the roads that stitch the parkway right. If you're lucky, you get one of the roads that stitch the parkway that nobody wants to use. Otherwise, you're heading towards sliding rock, yeah, things like that.

Unknown: I mean, I love the West that you know, it's hot Washington state, the Cascade Mountains, that's gorgeous to go through, but then it's the rain. You gotta

Robin Dean: pick the right season, right

Brian Wringer: the right suit the right season, and still get wet.

Unknown: You know, honestly, Minnesota is beautiful. Wisconsin is awesome. I enjoy touring those lived in Alabama for three years, and there's some parts of Alabama that were really fun to go through. The Tale of the Appalachian Mountains in northeast Alabama has some really beautiful scenery, lots of interesting you know, when your butt gets sore and you need to get off the bike because you got a cramp that you can't work out, there's history and interesting things to stop and see. I don't think I've seen much of it. I might have to pick your brain about that one at some point. Yeah, no worries. We tried to see them all at some point. Brian, you got something here about in the zone, state of flow, state of zone in the flow, flow, the zone in the state, something

Brian Wringer: like that. When you're really in the zone and you're riding a motorcycle, you get in the state of flow. You get in the zone, you know, you see everything expands, time slows down, stuff like that. It's meditation, it's meditation, so forth. I think that's kind of the thing everybody has in common. One of the reasons, you know, you get in that state of flow, and that's kind of what I was wondering, is it a little bit like that when you really get into something like a challenging surgery, stuff like that. Do you really get focused and you get in that zone? Oh,

Unknown: absolutely. You know, there's operations where I finish and then I sort of stand up straight and go, Holy crap. Why does my back hurt? Well, it's been four hours, you know, and it felt like 20 minutes. You're in an altered state of reality. It's different than motorcycle riding in that it's a very hyper focused I mean, I literally don't hear the music that's playing. I don't see the people around me. I don't feel my back screaming at me or that my feet are saying, you know, we're sore and tired, and it's time to stop. I don't feel any of that until I'm done and I step back and go, I'm too old for this. That might

Brian Wringer: answer part of some of the first questions is like, why the heck do you do this? I tell

Unknown: you, there is no feeling in the world like having put somebody back together that fell apart, either from an illness or an injury, and having to leave the hospital and turn around on their way out and say thank you. There's just no feeling like that in the world. I did. Thank you, right? Yes, you did. Just want to make sure I had a hand in that somewhere. That's an amazing way to tell it. And now I'm thinking back,

Brian Wringer: did I thank the sir? I think I did. Thank the surgeons that put me back together all three times what you're talking about. And

Robin Dean: I'd rather inspire this conversation than hear the cinema voice. But I feel like it hit me in a certain way what you just said, that it's not just endorphins. You know, you can do strange things in strange contortions, so long as at that logical moment, linearly speaking, it makes sense to be in that position. One example is you freeze frame, a sidearm picture from the Yankees. When you get that freeze frame of when their elbow is hyperflexed outward and it just looks how can that be? But at that exact moment, it is a fluid endorphin driven completely facilitated by their own body, not gonna leave a scar, not gonna do any harm. It's where they should be at that given time. You just ride that through the process for the betterment of the person that you're operating on. Right? I think that I speak for any motorcyclist that no matter our skill set, if it's that dope who went and drank an entire 40 and then rode into a pine tree and thought he drank gin, or if it's somebody who is absolutely dedicated to obtaining more skill and using it in the right environment, things can happen. And we all are extremely grateful to somebody like you who not only does what you do on a grandiose level on that shelf, you also ride a motorcycle. Give me a break.

Brian Wringer: Too Cool. Thanks. Yeah, and it's sort of like motorcycling, and what you're talking about with doing a really intricate surgery, stuff like that, it's access to a higher level of consciousness, I

Unknown: think, a different plane of existence.

Brian Wringer: I feel sorry for people who just go to work and push spreadsheets around and never get transcendence. You know, in any way, it's easy access.

Crystal Lumi: Like I said, I'm in a relationship with speed and power. But, you know, those things are intoxicating. If. Feel

Unknown: the need. Who wouldn't want that literally, is as long as in the right environment. And it's just so great that we finally landed that point that, you know, it's just, it's just like fixing the car break surgery. It's, it's, it's like, we're one exception running. Anything else you would like to say to our listeners about your passion for writing about the next bike? Any plans on the horizon? Well, I have to go on one of your trips.

Robin Dean: Bring it.

Crystal Lumi: I have to get a bike. Make sure that you know, my body, physically is able to ride again, because it's been a little bit we

Unknown: can work with you on that. That'd be fun. Get a bike. Get some atgat. I'll probably ask you to take an arc, and I'll probably ask you to attend a track day. Once all that is set, we will go on a motorcycle ride. Rolling her eyes. I saw the eye roll. Surgeon, doctor, call me crystal Lumi. It's a real honor and pleasure for us to have had you on the show. I'm extremely grateful for you doing this. You're very welcome anytime. Thank

Brian Wringer: you very much, Crystal, this has been wonderful.