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Listen in as Robin, Travis and Tim discuss all things IMS with featured guest host and TRO writer Tom Burns. Music by Otis McDonald. Download our feed here.

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Robin: Hello everyone. If you didn't know it already, you're about to listen to the second half of a two-part writing obsession podcast.

Travis: Joining us today is Tom Burns, a writer for the site who's taking part as we discuss Chicago's 2019 aggressive international motorcycle show.

Tim: This episode of the writing obsession podcast is brought to you by the ugly apple cafe of Madison, Wisconsin, where they use local overstock produce to offer a quick tasty breakfast.

Robin: The writing obsession.com is always seeking sponsors for this podcast. Sponsors are given three focus mentions toward the start, middle and end of their designated episode. Their contributions are put towards bettering the program's content and recording equipment. I'll take this opportunity to promote our next group writing tour, which is scheduled for spring of this year, dubbed the trip sevens tour. Seven writers will cover seven States in seven days, starting May 26th of 2019. We got two spots left. As far as I know, it's a twisty sport touring getaway of epic proportions, and we hope you'll sign up. More information about that tour is available via the writing obsession.com.

Tim: I'm a fan of the safety stuff. I'm a little bit of a safety dork and I would really love for the airbag tech to come down in price.

Travis: Is she demoing the airbag tech in this photo?

Tim: Yeah. Yeah. That's what she's pointing at and talking about is the, this is the race model jacket, you know, the track jacket, but they also have a, they have a street version as well that they've gotten developed, but I've also got a photo of the model with this is what's built into the race jacket. Yeah. With the airbag.

Travis: So it's a little smaller coverage.

Robin: Well, okay.

Tim: The rest of the race suit is so much better.

Robin: I feel like I'm the resident track guy here. I know you guys want to do a track day, but I don't think anybody else here, maybe Tim, have you done a track day? I'm sorry. No, I have not. Travis, you haven't yet. But Tom, have you? No.

Tim: I did the, uh, the total control or the, uh, uh, motovid, um, course.

Robin: Okay. You did the motovid. Which, which court are you talking about? The, uh, the, uh, like the, the novice class in the.

Tim: Overriding 101.

Robin: Oh, that's fantastic. That would be just fine. That would, that essentially is a track day. They set you free eventually, right? Oh yeah. So I would, so being a, you know, I like the track days. I like track days plenty. I would like to see them release this component independently with its own, its own harness for anybody who wants to buy a size up in their gear. That would be fine. You know what I'm saying? That, that's the point I'm trying to make here.

Travis: There's a, there's, there's, there is a company that does make like a, an over the top airbag unit. I forget where they are now. Top of my head. But, um.

Tim: Wasn't it, uh, Held that has like a vest? The overvest airbag?

Travis: Yeah, it's like a vest. Yeah, the overvest. Yeah. Airbag solution. Yeah. I think you're right.

Tim: Like the turtle or something like that. Is that still on the market? Yeah. Yeah. Nice. So listen up to that.

Travis: So you can upgrade that without getting a whole new jacket. Yeah. But it's still.

Tim: I think there's a plug in led strip package that you can combine with it too.

Robin: So then you strap airbags to the back of your helmet too and.

Tim: Yeah. Well, the, the big concept here is that it's going to inflate around as a collar underneath your helmet and limit the rotation of the, of your helmet. Yeah. So you're not, you're going to reduce neck injuries with this thing and they've, they've tuned it to like what speeds it deploys at, you know, what sensitivity it's set for the street versus the track version. And yeah, you get a chance to talk to the, the models who are working the event. Of course. Yeah.

Robin: This one is just funny because they were, yeah, the shot guys, what I see in this photo, what we have is, is she Ducati? She's not Ducati. No, that she's a. She's Dainese. She's Dainese. And what I see here is, hi, I'm willing to talk to you about some of our products. I'm a, a Dainese model and I see two guys who are like, uh, yeah, I don't know how to talk to you. So I have to go. You know what I mean? But I have a beer. I'll be back after the second beer, you know? Yeah. That's pretty good.

Tim: So she was funny. She was so funny to talk to too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We, we got some horror stories of some of the crazy people who've come up and talked to her. He, what was it? Medical psychic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some guy who claimed he was a medical psychic who would, could just by looking at her and tell her exactly what was wrong with her.

Robin: That is so wonderful.

Tim: You've got a sore shoulder, don't you? Yeah. You're right. So shoulder is very sore. It's a rotator cuff or something, right? You need to make that, you gotta let that rest.

Travis: That's a cool. Yeah. Yeah. But I like that jacket she's wearing though. That kind of vintage style jacket with the red, white and blue stripe. That's pretty cool. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Tim: There's no doubt that they've got some gorgeous gear.

Travis: That'd go real sweet with my new, uh, red, uh, red hair.

Robin: Well, let me put you in touch with somebody who offered me a big old fat discount and I w because I didn't take them up on it and I'll see if I can capitalize on that in your favor.

Travis: No, I don't need any more gear. Yeah. I just bought, I just bought, I just bought to digress back to the beginning of this podcast. I just bought a thousand dollar electric upright base, so I'm good.

Robin: Nice. The stick is a stick base.

Travis: Yeah. It's a, it's a Steinberger.

Robin: Nice.

Travis: Anyway, the VR experience on the Strom, which I do like the Strom, I do like that color too. Yeah.

Tim: And this is my favorite photo I think I took of the whole show because what you, what sort of the people that you don't get around to see the photo. This is what it is. It is a little girl in a parka with a little VR headset on a Suzuki V Strom.

Travis: New 2019. Yeah. Blue and silver.

Tim: Yup. And it's, she's in directly in front of the sign that says California South BDR 360 degrees VR experience. And she's just kind of like looking up into the sky somewhere and you couldn't get any farther like from the cold, miserable weekend this was, you know, that she's clearly still in her parka and you're wondering what she's seeing. And she's, she out in the desert, she out in the, on the coast somewhere.

Robin: I feel a little guilty now. Yeah.

Tim: I feel a little guilty. The guys from the BDR, the Backcountry Discovery Routes, they were doing a presentation there. We chatted with them a little bit. Um, well actually, uh, Sylvia spent time talking to some like Russians who were laughing like these big, big guys, bigger than me. They were laughing about this one man tent that was set up as a display. Yeah. Yeah. So Sylvia, of course said, Oh, I'll get in it if you do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and he, he, did he call himself a big ape? Yeah. Yeah. He was a funny guy. He was a lot of fun. So while that was going on, I'm talking to the SINA guy who was, yes, yeah, no, no photoproof. This picture reminds me, the reason why I hit the vendors first is to prevent me from being spontaneous and buying a Bluetooth or something like this, because then I'd have to lug it around the rest of the day and keep my eyes on it when I set my bag down to jump on bikes and stuff like that. So it, uh, it prevents me from, uh, blowing money that I don't need to that way. I have to think about it. And by the time, you know, I'm done looking at all the bikes, the dealers and stuff. And I've had time to think about it. It's like, do I really need that or don't?

Robin: Well, Tom, did you check out the new SINA stuff? And if so, what exactly are they doing next?

Tim: I mean, they had, Oh, actually. So I did not buy anything, did not see anything I was interested in. I guess I'm getting kind of like Travis. I'm kind of bored with all that, you know, the, especially when you have to, you know, wade through all the vehicle vendors. It's usually worth it. I found, uh, I found those speaker headphones, those, uh, you clear. I definition ones that are really good. That was a good score. It's cheap. And, uh, two years ago I got my hands on a SANA, was it S20? Right when it came out for like 160 bucks at the show. Oh yeah. That's when I'm like, I'm going to find some great deal. But, uh, yeah, I never unboxed it. I'm still happy with my Cardo. I ended up selling it.

Robin: You don't really, you don't really matters here though. In this particular picture is at least we found a guy who is still listening to pretty hate machine. If you look at that, that monitor off in the distance, would we're seeing there? No, but it looks damn close to it. It's a cover a pretty hate machine right there.

Tim: Yo, I think, uh, one thing that SANA did have was a new low end, low profile, um, it was like bare bones headset. You know, it's kind of a step down from the SMH-10R.

Travis: Yeah. Like a new replacement for the SMH-5. Yep.

Tim: Yeah. And it looked nice. He didn't have any out on the helmets, so, and I didn't bug him to open the box. Cause even he didn't seem all that excited at that time of the day. Hmm. I like the, uh, Cardo low profile when they have with a battery mounts on the back of the helmet.

Travis: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the SANA, that's right. If I have a, uh, a SANA-10R that's like that. Um, it's, it's, it's fine. It works.

Tim: Hmm.

Travis: Yeah. If I were going to upgrade it, I'd probably go with that. Or, um, yeah, if I, I mean, if I were going to like really drop the bank, you know, drop a couple of thousand or thousand and change, um, I'd get just a, I'd get a, um, Oh, what's the brand? The top helmet brand. Probably to something that you can buy. Surely the Schuberth Schuberth Schuberth. Yeah. I get a Schuberth C3 pro, uh, with the integrated, the integrated SANA-20.

Tim: Those look so nice.

Travis: It goes into the neck roll. But you know, that's 1200 bucks. I don't have some.

Tim: Yeah.

Robin: I think that's 1200 bucks that all of us combined don't have. Like if we wanted to like basically share the helmet and all of its BO and sweat, we couldn't even do that.

Travis: Well, I'm a meaty amount of about, yeah.

Tim: Always been the reason that stolen motorcycles mystify me is who in the world would want to put their head in my helmet?

Travis: Oh, yeah.

Tim: Like after I've been wearing it for a season or two, Oh, I don't even want to put my head in there. Yeah. So, yeah. So I got a kick out of the Royal Enfield display. This, so I didn't.

Travis: That's a classic. Yeah. Though the, the classic single, but in the army green.

Tim: Yep. So just beautiful old bullet. Uh, I think were they bought? Yeah. So Royal Enfield used to be an English manufacturer that got bought by a India firm, if I remember, they just moved all the tooling over there.

Travis: Yeah. Well, it was like post, post, uh, European, post, uh, English colonialism. Like they kind of started making them over there and then like, they just kind of stayed over there once like India got their independence.

Robin: Do you have a flag? Because if you don't have a flag, we're claiming this for England.

Tim: Yes. Yeah. But the cool thing is they had this just gorgeous concept bike.

Robin: That looks a lot more real. That looks a lot more real.

Travis: Well, but yeah, it's got the kind of front end, kind of like the, the Confederate bikes that they're classic huge.

Tim: It's split down the middle.

Travis: So it doesn't, it doesn't look like an or, and the LED headlight and the, uh, the V twin.

Robin: Well, yeah. So what Tom's saying, it was like, it's like Confederate only significantly more breakable.

Travis: No, it's a, no, I mean, it's a, it's a concept, but the V twin looks good. Yeah, it does.

Tim: And I spent some time talking to the guy there. He was Mr. Filippo Corticelli is the, uh, what are the industry, he's the group manager of industrial design.

Robin: So Royal Enfield sent me a bike and they said, can you redesign for a prototype for display? And I said, yes. So the first thing I did was I, I received their bike and I threw it in the garbage and started with something different tires on it.

Travis: It's good.

Tim: You know, Royal Enfield, you know, they built the same thing forever and ever. And then just in the last, you know, five, 10 years, they've started modernizing and started exploring, and this is kind of the new, the new six, what they're trying good, like the, the continental and the, the other, the standard, the six, 18, the new ones that came out like last year looked good.

Travis: And this looks amazing with the V twin.

Tim: The Himalayan is a, from what I hear, the Himalayan, the Himalayan is a bad-ass bike.

Robin: It is. It is.

Travis: Now the Himalayan. It's the Himalayan is a good replacement for your 1996 DRC 50.

Robin: Agreed. Yep. Yep. And you know, the first thing that happened, like we, what's the designer there, uh, the guy that won the IMS show with the Indian, um, Oh, from, from analog. Tony analog. Yeah. He received, so he received a Royal Enfield and they wanted him to do a custom bike. So we received the bike. And the first thing he discovered was that, okay. The, the, uh, the oil, one of the oil lines, uh, no, yeah, something that connected the oil line was broken. So they sent, he sent it back and said, look, this is broken. Send me a new one. They sent him a new one and it arrived in the box. Okay. Broken. Yeah. So they, but the thing is I'm rooting for him. I, I'm actually rooting for them. I think they're fantastic.

Travis: Well, and here's the thing that Royal Enfield does that like no, no, this doing is make, makes, makes bikes that are in a price point that like new riders can buy.

Robin: Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

Tim: Royal Enfield for making bikes that we can buy or they don't, they don't seem to be so reliable yet though. Right. Now here's an interesting one. Is that new crowds into the, into the game is, you know, something that looks cool at that, you know, they can actually wrap their minds around affording. If not right now, you know, down the road.

Robin: Right. Like here's a round town or that you're going to be able to buy as a new rider and go to the grocery store on, if you want to, and just get your practice on.

Tim: And you know, you don't have to buy a, you know, 76 CV, seven 50 and figure out how to rebuild it. Slide carbs. I like the way this feels like an old school board track racer.

Robin: It actually looks comfortable.

Tim: What this says to me.

Robin: Yeah. It's got a big wheel base. That's a little bit off, but off putting.

Travis: I mean, it, it looks like a, like a, I don't know if it's a soft tail, but it looks like a hard tail that's like maybe the design that we're going for. And it does have the soft tail. It's got the Maxis.

Tim: Um, see the spring here.

Travis: Okay. But it's got that, it's got that soft tail design with a floating rear with their floating seats and, but it does have the flat tracker, um, unidirectional tires on it, like the tires that only go left.

Tim: Yeah. These are, these are flat track tires because they decided they wanted to, uh, in order to get the proportions they wanted, those are actually 19 inch rims.

Travis: Yeah.

Tim: So they, that, and that was the only rubber that they could find to put on the 19 inch rims.

Travis: Yeah. The flat track tires that, that have the tread that goes left on that seat.

Tim: Is that suede?

Travis: I don't remember if it was a concept, but it looks, I mean, it looks, I mean, it looks like something that was a production version of this, like, so probably not the, probably not the 19 inch wheels because you can't get tires. Um, probably like maybe, well, maybe a 19 front and an 18 rear or 17 rear, um, with a V twin there or a cool V twin looks really good and maybe, uh, maybe like an actual, like regular telescopic front end instead of whatever this is. Um, but like, it'd be a cool looking bike, man. Like, and if, and if it was Royal Enfield price, like if it was like seven, eight grand, Oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh yeah. It would be, it'd be nice. It'd be, it'd be everything that Indian should be doing. It isn't.

Tim: Yeah.

Travis: Yeah.

Tim: Yep. Yeah. I loved it. And then the other modern classic, the BMW R nine T. Is that what it is? Am I right on that?

Travis: Uh, yeah, I do like, I do like those canvas saddlebags. Yes.

Tim: Yep. They're just gorgeous. I do like the way they look. It's just, the price is a little hard. Dumbfounding.

Travis: Yeah. Well, I mean, you could actually get like a slash six or slash seven or an R 100, like an actual police issue. That's a pretty actual vintage. Well, while I'm back, you get an actual vintage BMW for less and get it set up that way, get a K 75 or something. Oh, I mean, a K 75 is a different animal, but I would love a K 75, but yeah, same thing.

Tim: Oh, I did see someone actually, there were a couple of custom flying brick K bikes, like choppered out K bikes. It was really weird. Like, what am I looking at here?

Travis: Why would you chopper that? Like it's, it's like the K, like the first gen K bikes, like the LA 80s, K 75.

Robin: Yeah.

Travis: Are an exercise in nerdy practicality.

Robin: Why did, what exactly did you prove here?

Travis: Why would you chopper them? I mean, I get, I get, I mean, maybe I get like the cognitive dissonance there as like an art expression, but like the practical, they like the, the, the practical, practical person to me is just like, this bike, this bike was like straight up engineered to be like the most reliable, dependable, functional piece of tool. Like it's a tool. It's a hammer. It's a hammer of a motorcycle. Why are you making it a beret?

Robin: So they bring in, we just like the music. All right. So what do we got?

Tim: All right. So yeah, yeah, I did get a, they did bring a police issue bike in there.

Robin: Yeah.

Tim: So yeah. And then this is the, uh, this new F 750. Yeah. This is actually the low suspension and low seat version.

Robin: Yeah. Margaret could ride that. Megadine could actually ride that bike. Look at that.

Tim: I mean, it is just, it go on. I love these for, you know, these are really not priced that unreasonable, you know, for being a BMW, this is some of their bikes are not crazy on the price.

Robin: Sure.

Tim: You know, they're fairly competitive.

Robin: Well, the F series specifically, they're really competitive with the Fs. Yeah.

Tim: Yup. And you know, this is your adventure styled bike. And so it's going to have the taller, generally taller suspension and more comfort, more upright ergonomics. So it's going to be a comfortable bike to ride.

Robin: Now with a fork brace, those are, those are standard forks. They're not USD. Um, but with a fork brace, I mean, and some knobby tires, you know, could this be a world trekker of sorts for somebody who is vertically challenged? I, you know, absolutely.

Tim: No question at all. This is a bike that could do that.

Travis: Here's a thing just in the theme of the ride obsession to come is the F 800, um, GT, ST, which became the GT is, is no more. Right. Yeah. ST GT is no more. Um, oh geez. Oh shit.

Robin: What happened?

Travis: I can hear you. My beer. My beer exploded.

Robin: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody pause. Everybody hold on. Relax. We got this.

Travis: Are you okay, Travis? And well, that's from is my, my, my garage beer fridge is more of a, it at this point, more insulates beer from the cold and keeps him cold. Um, so this beer just got a little too cold and it kind of over, over home there.

Tim: Anyway.

Travis: Um, but I heard that the, uh, so, so for the, the F GS series, right? Like a BMW has the new eight 50 motor, right? Um, that's an F a 50 F eight 50 GS. Yeah. Okay. They, they move the gas tank, the regular gas tank positions that run to the seat and they change a bunch of things on the new, um, which is kind of what, basically what we're looking at, the, the, the sort of lower spec version of that. Um, but they're, they're going to have an F eight 50 R S really? Yeah. Let me see if you go to, if you go to BMW Motorrad right now, there's no, there's no 800 sport touring model. There's no midsize sport touring model.

Robin: I'm already looking for images. Oh my God. I found the prototype. Oh, that is a, that's a hooligan model.

Travis: That model after they are the 1200, I think the 1250, but there's gonna be an eight 50 with the new parallel twin in a sport touring model. So let's keep our eyes open for that.

Robin: I mean, it doesn't, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The eight 50 R S there is an ST model and that ST model is fully luggage equipped. It looks a lot like the R 1250, which by the way, most of us who own the RS are pretty pissed off about. But the actual naked version of this F eight 50 R S is just, if you Google it, it looks like a street fighter. It's got a, an isolated rear wheel, uh, with a, it's got a, a single, it's a, a Unishock, yeah, single side swing arm. Yep. Single side swing arm with a Unishock and USDs. It looks just like it is out to space age. The concept of being a street fighter with a fairing.

Travis: Yeah, that would be, I mean, I've always liked the BMW, um, midsize bikes. I mean, that was Jenny, the jackhammer, which I missed that bike. I was going to be my next tattoo.

Robin: I was going to tell you right now that I actually miss that bike. I had some nostalgia for that trip you and I took to Oregon and back. I went there.

Travis: Yeah. But, um, yeah, so I was, I liked the midsize kind of sport touring, uh, BMWs and I'd love to see them come back again. I got a big hard on for the, for the K 75. Oh, I want one so bad. Talk to Ryan Chappelle. Anyway, we're going to keep going on the IMS show.

Tim: Yeah.

Robin: My last word to this, it's too bad that that's the only BMW I'm ever going to own because that's it. I'm done.

Tim: Oh yeah.

Robin: It's over. Yeah. Go on. Yeah.

Tim: So moving on, this is the, uh, the bike that always cracks me up that they keep bringing it to this show because it hasn't changed since 1997. This is the, the infamous Bush pig, the DR 650. And I got, I had someone look at me in a very disapproving way because I jumped on top of it and I rocked it back on the suspension and threw up the cowboy arm. And we've had Bush pig Bush pig. Somebody disapproving. Wasn't one of the sales reps. No, it was just some dude walking by. He just looked, looked horrified that I was like getting a little too friendly with the DR 650.

Travis: You don't know man. And so I get one of these, I would read you the entire suspension and the, and the carburetor and it would be, it would be awesome.

Tim: Is it still carbureted? Yeah, it is still carbureted. It's still a vacuum carb, vacuum, uh, petcock and, um, yeah, it's, it's, it does have a little oil cooler now, you know, but it is kind of the most rock solid rock reliable bike you can have.

Travis: Yeah.

Tim: Well, I think it's still making the XR. Yep. Yep.

Travis: XR 650, which is still being made, but they're both like the bikes that you just like hit with a rock until it starts working again.

Tim: Yeah, absolutely. Yep. This is the, the bike, you know, I had, I've had a couple now, um, but I was able to click, change the clutch pack in a dirt parking lot in, uh, just outside paradise, Michigan, you know, so middle of nowhere, which you don't know.

Travis: Despite its name is, is just like a dirt road and nowhere.

Tim: Yes, absolutely. Yeah. It was like, you guys actually get UPS up here, but they get those special UPS because you, because you, because you overnighted a clutch to yourself. Yeah. Yep. Overnighted a clutch, changed it out in the parking lot, you know, with the oil still hot and I'm wearing my moto gloves to keep from burning myself.

Travis: Like lay it down on the side to keep the oil in the engine and then redid the clutch with the oil in the engine. Yes.

Tim: Yep. So, I mean, I've got some affection for this whole beast.

Travis: It's a bush pig. Yeah. I'm surprised they're still making it and that they haven't like updated it. That Suzuki hasn't made a new fuel injected 650 single to put in stuff.

Tim: How many years now? Yeah. You know, since 97, so 22 years.

Robin: Parts galore, man. That means that that thing is the apocalypse bike. That's the bike you want to get.

Tim: The aftermarket is incredible. You know, there's everything you want. You want to do full, uh, full rebuild of the suspension. It's out there, you know, crash guards, crash protection, um, carburetor swaps, all that information's out there.

Travis: Is that your standard Suzuki where like all of the parts are the same? So like you want to put like a Gixxer front end on it and make a wicked Supermoto, yeah, you just bolt on.

Tim: Mm-hmm. Nope. So, yeah. So since I was over in the Suzuki, I got some pictures of the new Katana.

Travis: The new Katana GSX-R with the retro styling. It's so Blade Runner.

Robin: You know what?

Travis: It is a nice job.

Robin: Yeah. I I'm with Tom on this. Um, Tom, you mind if I say some noise on this? Go for it. Here's my opinion. The, they got something wrong. Uh, I love everything about this bike from nose to tail. I think it is quite, quite the example of what it's supposed to sort of be. Um, I dig it. I, you know, I've heard people say, you know, I like the old version, but I love the old version. I think it was amazing. I never owned one. I, you know, our own Joe Conrarty had a pristine, pristine, original, original, he had the Aussie spokes on it. He, he swapped it out for the Australian version, which is they only did it in Australia. Uh, he wanted that and he got the rims to do it with. So when I look at this bike, I feel fantastic about what I'm seeing, except for they repeated a big mistake. First off those bars, the handlebars have like three inches of rise. They're, they're far too tall. They don't contour with the bike. They're, they're too high. Let this thing have a little bit more of a tuck. I personally would go a little one inch rise, a super bike bar. I would go with super bike bars on this. And it's the first thing I would swap out. Second off, they put the mirrors on the bars. I do not, I'm not happy that they put the mirrors on the bars. They should have their own isolated location on the fairing. Tom, what do you think?

Tim: I agree. I agree with you there. The thing I liked about it most is, is you can see the engine. It's like the original, I think what was it? 82 when they launched it. Yeah. Right. I was drooling over the fact that it was side by side. I was like, Oh, that's beautiful. But, um, so I had a 90 GSXR 750. So every time I do Google searches, Katana would pop up and I hated those nineties Katanas, but it covered the whole engine with plastic and it was just like very boring, just very angular. Yeah. But, uh, the original, I love it. So I liked the, you know, that they, uh, it harkens back to that where the engine's exposed. It's like they show all the guts.

Travis: Yeah.

Tim: Yeah.

Travis: With that, with that early eighties kind of angular design.

Tim: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And they, it's like a, it looks like a nod to the original.

Robin: Oh, there's a four. Yeah.

Tim: I wish the mirrors were integrated and yeah, the bars are high, but it doesn't look like there's a clearance issue. It looks like they changed those bars out with something lower.

Robin: Yeah. You look at the original, it's kind of like a semi-forward tuck. The, the new one's kind of more of a standard posture.

Tim: Yeah. Yeah, I agree. It's a little hard to tell with the rear on a track stand. So you're not really getting a good feel for the angle of it.

Travis: Yeah. The other thing that it's missing is a luggage mount. Oh, is it? Well, I mean, the, the Katana is not a.

Tim: No, it doesn't have one, but it would, I think it would look really good with some style matched luggage boxes.

Robin: Twisted throttle. That's a shout out to Twisted Throttle. Do your stuff. Help us get what we need. Yeah, maybe.

Travis: I mean, yeah, it has to be Motec.

Robin: Yeah. It's got it covered. Yeah.

Travis: I mean, it's, it's got that modern where they make the tail super short and then put the floating, the meat, the meat regulation, they put the floating fender hugger on it with the, with the, with the license plate and the reflectors and taillight and stuff. Right. So, um, yeah, I don't know.

Robin: I mean, I feel like if you want luggage, buy Bandit. Yeah. Well, the Bandit didn't come with luggage either.

Travis: The Bandit, no, but, but this is, this is made to be a brawler and not be a tourer. Sure.

Tim: True.

Travis: Yeah. Despite the handlebars. I agree with you on that, Robin, but at least from this picture, maybe this is more flattering angle. I don't know. But, but.

Robin: I mean, I want it. I see what I have here. Then those are tall bars. I would not throw that motorcycle out of my bed for eating cookies.

Tim: It seems to be the trend these days is to, to, you know, a more relaxed riding position, which is what, what got me to buy my is Robin likes to call it a ZX 1000. Yeah. What it's what it's sold as. Go on. Um, I, I stopped, it was beautiful. I was like, wow, that looks a little bit relaxed. Cause I've, I've had a Superhawk for years, which was like one of the first ergonomic, they call it. Yeah.

Travis: Yeah.

Tim: Cause I'm short too. So if it's, if it's a race riding position, I'm really stretched over the tank. So that Superhawk was beautiful. And why did I get an upgrade for years? Cause I couldn't find anything that was like a relax, a sport bike that was somewhat relaxed and like everything is now, unless it has RS on it.

Robin: Yes. Yes.

Tim: I mean, that's the, yeah. There's nothing. That's why they went for that as to, you know, to appeal to what's what's selling these days is, which is practical, you know, it's yeah.

Travis: Well, and too, there's plenty of throttle and cable on there. Like you can put whatever bars you want on there.

Robin: You could dump those, dump those down to a half inch or even a straight bar. If you really wanted to, um, I do like it. I, I, my vote is yes.

Travis: And then, yeah. Put some little bar in mirrors or something on it.

Robin: Oh, the Suzuki. What is this?

Travis: Hello, fan fan. I like how they did the van van with like hipster, like. Espresso brown, uh, ribbed seats and then like military flat gray over gloss with gloss over paint on the van.

Robin: I like the fact that you looked at it that way. I didn't see any of that shit. I just saw a little puppy dog. You're like, yeah, it's a van. It's, you know, it's a Suzuki, but it's reminiscent of a variety of participant classical emblems that go on. Sorry.

Travis: Well, I don't know if anyone's making, is anyone making aftermarket tanks for these things? Cause like that needs a big, gigantic plastic, like the bubble tank that hangs over the sides of the, like deep over the side.

Robin: Yeah. Yeah. It needs a Safari tank.

Travis: It needs a big Safari tank. So you can just like put like three or four gallons in it and take the 80 miles a gallon it gets and just like go on the ranch and just for the whole week and never put gas in it, you know?

Robin: I'm going camping. On the other, on the other side of our 55 acres, wherever I want, right. No. Okay. This is the SV six 50 X. I love everything about this, except for the beanie. The beanie can go, but otherwise a little, the little cowl. Yeah. There's something to it. It just doesn't quite work. I'd rather do something else, but the rest of that bike, I love. I think it's great. It's it's jagged.

Travis: I do like the SV. Yeah. But it's, it's got this mechanical feel. Yeah. You can see all the bits and tubes and pipes and in a good way.

Tim: Um, yeah, it's a well sorted engine. Well sorted chassis.

Travis: Well, I mean, the SV, yes. I kind of, yeah. I mean, it's a Vstrom. You, I mean, if you, if you're not an adventure bike guy, you're thinking about an SV, just go on the adventure bike forums and look at the Vstrom. Oh yeah. And it's like, it's basically the same bike. And it's like, it's just fantastic. It is a, it is a hammer of a motorcycle. Like it just has the thing it's supposed to do. Like, even if it's like broken in half and like worn down and it's 40 years old, it still does the thing it's supposed to do. Yes.

Tim: And if you are ever worried about whether it'll last, I have friends with over 150,000 miles on their SV, uh, their Vstroms.

Robin: Yeah. It's a half mil bike.

Tim: 650s.

Robin: Yeah. What's next? What do we got?

Tim: Oh, some of the prank photos I took. I, excuse me.

Robin: I, Hey, shout out, shout out, shout out to a shout out to Joe Godin, who was completely infatuated when I let him know that BMW and Suzuki both make 650 CC scooters. He had no idea. It was just like, well, huh? He was like, Oh, he wants to throw a turbo into one.

Tim: Yeah. I don't know if you can see, I sent you pictures of the 200. Hey, look at the, look at the sign in the background live for daily thrills. Yeah.

Travis: So Tim, Tim is saying this is a prank, uh, which of the four of us has done like a several thousand mile trip on a two or two CCs that best spot.

Robin: Wait, I know this one. I know this one. Tom, you want, you beg to guess Tom?

Tim: I know who it is.

Robin: Yeah. Who's go on Travis. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, who is making fun, who is poking fun at all of us with these 200 CC scooters. He's the guy who basically circled the globe on a 200 CC. Shine. Was it, what was it? What did you have? It was a Vespa.

Travis: The problem that's what he went, he went Madison, DC, Montreal, Madison, no joke.

Tim: No. Did it, did it for real? 16 days on the, on a two 50. My favorite part of that story is that he kept on catching up to Harley riders. Oh, I actually like no this was actually in the Adirondacks It was one of those roads. It was like it was it was a long straight boring road And so like a pack of three big you know cruisers started rolling up behind me, and they were kind of like pressing me, but the road kept getting twistier and They started falling away I Was doing like I was doing the little brake flash to kind of like let him know look out There's a corner, and there's gravel you know And after a while I realized that realized they weren't behind me anymore Like I I stopped at an intersection to get my map out And I'm sitting there trying to decide where I'm going and about three or four minutes later the Harley guys roll by Wave at me like You're riding overloaded Vespa

Travis: 250 cc Vespa like a 230 pound six three die on it and like luggage for a week of travel

Robin: Sure that do you as a prideful Harley rider want to mess with that? I don't think so I wouldn't I wouldn't mess with that so what are we looking at here, though?

Travis: This is actually no, this is the triumph scrambler oh With like the single with the actual like off-road rear suspension on it right yes Yes, and I liked it.

Tim: It felt good. Oh, I've heard nothing but good things about this bike Yeah, and I didn't actually take a proper photo of it. I just have a picture of the tank sitting on it It had this really neat It's a satin green With and then like you just can't quite see it, but beyond the there's a little bit of gold trim And then it's a gloss like they're traditional Green and I can almost see it just barely on the edge there yep And it's got this beautiful like brushed aluminum strap down.

Travis: I love the tank gorgeous. Yeah No like if you could I mean I suppose you could strap a big-ass windscreen on it Handguards and make a tour out of it. Oh, yeah, yeah The suspension and the powertrain on those is is It's really good. I mean if I had the cash. I'd do it.

Robin: You know I know we're looking at the Africa twin Is this thing have they changed anything to this now?

Tim: Is this this is the same thing is what I bought pretty much, but it's all in matte black, so it's the Oh Damn right Yeah, the adventure sports version is the one in the background the all in the Captain America colors But yeah, I just got a kick out of that so Then here's the CB 1000 Thousand F.

Travis: Oh, I sat one of those Inglehart the local mass dealership has one of those in the showroom And I sat on one is it cuz last year at the show it was on the pedestal you couldn't sit on it and it's like It's got those beautiful swoopy four into one pipes It's just so well done of all the naked bikes. That's just elegant um though the new the news I don't know if you got a pic. I don't have it coming up, but the new CB 650 are Which looks exactly the same what's the 650 engine? Is Got a picture that is pretty gorgeous But you do have a picture of the new the new super Cub which oh god I want so bad, and it's cheaper, so it's cheaper than the monkey It's even the monkey has LED lights and keyless ignition. Yeah, it's so nice It's a perfect around towner like I don't care if you listen this podcast if your boyfriend husband girlfriend friend Complete stranger, whatever listen to this podcast And you don't ride motorcycles if you if you listen you have a friend They need to buy a super Cub if they commute less than 10 miles a day, and you live somewhere with an equitable climate Well understand that this was originally produced

Robin: This is the proven machine that was the most successful vehicle in the history of all

Travis: Combustion more yeah more so sold in the history of the world and now the other vehicle to tell like a factor of ten

Robin: They dropped it off a building. They shot it with a shotgun. They replaced the oil with a vegetable oil and it started and it ran and it wrote and that was back in

Travis: 1965 that was the and that was the old one yeah, I had I had a new one

Robin: I owned a c100 I owned a 1967 c100 super cub and it was fucking indestructible But this new one is the same basic dependability with disc brakes with modern LED tech

Travis: ABS Keyless a fuel injected this thing you have the fob on you and you go so whatever it's your daily commute It's a couple of miles It's like a couple of minutes of your day But you go out and you just like you have the thing in your in your purse or in your pocket And you go out and you get on the thing and you just hit the button and it just runs You don't feel like and then you just go and you've already take you to where you want to go like it I want to be so bad.

Robin: We've already budgeted to make the purchase so bad We're looking at we're looking at trading in the scooter for this and the newest model has 16-inch wheels front back 17 Yeah, 17 inch wheels.

Tim: Oh 17 inches alloy. Yep The nifty little heel toe shifter.

Travis: Yeah Just like the always been that it's what it's a four speed.

Robin: It's a four speed Anamorphic clutch, so yeah.

Travis: Yeah It's clutch it's clutchless shifting say there there's a Cloud Tommy doesn't have there's luggage. There is a Honda line Rear tail rack. Yeah There is not Honda line bags, but the aftermarket is gonna be right with with that Yeah, if you get the rack you could you could duct tape anything you want to the back of that thing Does it tie does it tie milk right to it and you're fine?

Robin: Yep. What's next? No, we don't have power washer, I don't care about your stupid power washer Tim Clark you prankster All right.

Tim: Here's the one that I was excited to see why Because I am a nerd Yeah, it requires amazing amount of nerdiness to make that front-end work. Tell the people what we're looking at All right, so we're looking at the leaning three-wheeler the Yamaha Nikon which has got the same 900 CC triple as the MT-09 or the tracer 900. Yeah 900, you know, this is So you've got two wheels up front and there's crazy steering geometry so that the apparent Steering still feels like a single wheel up front.

Robin: Do you want Skynet because this is how we get Skynet?

Tim: Yeah Yeah Traction control ABS 40% more stopping power up front.

Travis: That's pretty looking So the picture here from IMS like this is kind of a sort of quarantined off thing Have you been over to Englehart because they have one?

Tim: they they had this one and they also had another one the the touring package with the bigger windscreen and

Travis: In town and then you can get on it you can sit on it and you can have you like it's weird So it's front wheels, but it like when you're when you're sitting on it when you're in the seat It feels like you're just on a Yamaha MT-09 or a little bit bigger front tank Yeah, it's just a little bit more plastic in front of you but like you can't see the wheels like it just feels and you lean it side to side like in the showroom it It just feels like you're on a 900 So and I honestly feel like if you live in somewhere like Wisconsin where the roads are kind of shitty You got that extra contact patch Yeah, and you got the scratch I mean, that's the other thing is like it am a fully loaded like a tracer 900 GT is 12 grand a Nikon's like what 16 17 18 let's see here. I Do it but as an engineering exercise Tom, I can't tell if they're fighting right now.

Robin: Can you tell if they're fighting right now?

Tim: See if I can get the so 16,000 base price

Travis: Yeah, no for four grand over a tracer 900 GT So the 900 he comes with a quickshifter luggage the whole nine yards so four grand over that for the second front wheel and all the engineering and the limited production run, but It's super cool, it's got the scratch you want the extra confidence and the front end

Robin: Yep, it's not uncool, but it's a lot more cool. If you're kind of a geek like these two. Yes I have no interest in this but I get I get and can appreciate why I should probably Watch you guys argue about it Yeah The mechanics are amazing, but I wouldn't want to ride it.

Travis: Sure You know to me I would ride one and again if I won the lottery tomorrow fuck it I'll buy one but I'll wreck it. Yeah.

Tim: Yeah, I did find it to be quite comfortable with me and Sylvia on it. Yeah passenger.

Robin: Yeah, which is a strong. Do you have to put your feet down at a stop? Yeah, yes.

Tim: Well, then yeah, unlike the old Piaggio mp3. Mm-hmm. It's not something that the mp3 had a Ace Which by the way, I've seen hearing column lock. I've seen the mp3 at track days, which is oh, yeah, whenever I Whenever I took my Vespa in for service So the dealer would always give me one of the 500 CC mp3s as a rental or Just a loaner for the day. He was he was trying really hard to sell me that bike Here's the thing.

Travis: I always want to know is if if you can make one of these like two front wheel leaners understeer Will make it a front wheel drive Well, no like yeah, like like like the intercourt is so hard that the front wheels slip But like you don't fall down like make it understeer.

Robin: You're not gonna You could probably work at it make it happen But by default this since the rear drive, you know where I'm going with this The engineering says yeah, if you want to understeer you need to be pulling with the front end

Travis: Well, no, I mean you just gotta put you gotta push with the front end understeer like I mean Our rear-wheel drive or all-wheel drive car can understeer it's a lot about just geometry and grip and tire

Robin: Well one version one version is you trying to prove something?

Travis: The other version is something happened because you're asking too much of something, you know Yeah, well understeer well any sort of understeer over there because you're asking too much of the available traction coefficient But yeah, it's like could you actually understood that into a corner? I mean really I've seen I mean We've all seen the crazy slow-motion footage of MotoGP guys Understeering two-wheel bikes in the corners.

Robin: I've seen crazy I've seen footage of them like basically taking both wheels through the corner in a full sideways drag in a slide Yeah, yeah, it's like you can understeer.

Travis: I mean With enough skill you can understeer anything But I wonder if like with mediocre skill Can you understeer one of these two wheel things and stay on your fucking wheels sounds like we need to go do a test ride Do some really hot corporate if you're listening we want to try this Tom can we borrow your idea for a second?

Robin: Oh sure Where we at what are we looking? Oh, okay.

Tim: All right. So now we're on to the tracer GT

Travis: Hashtag want hashtag subscribe hashtag donate to our patreon to our patreon We should have patreon so that I can have a tracer 900 GT cuz that I'd tell you that was the bike that fit Travis

Robin: Best I have not I've never seen a bike look more Travis than this It ultimately is the perfect travatron machine the great bike

Tim: You know it is when you want to talk smart small sport tour. It is a good one well, I believe it's Refined version of the I was at j09, right? That's right Sure j09 which was it you know a lot of people like that bike because it had that the three-cylinder it's like bulletproof great motor but Everything else around it was not you know it was like pretty low-grade Suspension brakes and all that they weren't even received as well as I thought they should have been right. Yeah, well they the Fc09 got all the attention which was the same guts, but better surrounding components than the Then the FJ got I've made my jokes or a package Sorry about that I've made my jokes, but you know like I'm not big on the taller The taller bikes for the ADV.

Robin: I mean first off on five seven, so it doesn't even matter, but I've always felt like You know the taller bikes. They're gonna go in an ADV direction, but then really they're just tall street bikes This is the first one that I've seen in a while It begins to make itself look like it is truly intended for handling You know what I mean, I mean, it's so they are they're they're very nimble bikes.

Travis: Yeah, yeah Yeah, you know someone my size is not even really gonna be able to fit on a lot of those smaller sporty bikes I think you'd kick ass on this bike Tim if you do get the GT version that that's shown here It comes with luggage comes with a quick shifter comes with fully adjustable suspension What's that bag zoom in on that top bag the tail bag? That's maybe that that's an option the the G this the stock GT the stock chaser GT I've got the side bags.

Robin: I've got that It's the Nelson rig bags.

Travis: Yeah, that looks like a Nelson rig. Yeah, that's a good that's maybe an option It might be a Nelson rig. That's like Yamaha branded for as an option.

Tim: Yeah, but something just happened to my picture here That's all right.

Travis: I've got two of those bags sitting The new the new tracer That they brought that now that they like made the European branding and the American branding the same You see the FJ09 now it's the tracer 900 But if you get the tracer 900 GT you get the quick shifter you get rider modes traction control ABS control Comes with luggage fully adjustable manually adjustable, which actually kind of prefer over electronically adjustable suspension, but fully adjustable suspension front and rear so that's your rebound preload and Compression damping front and rear and you get quick shifter

Robin: Sidebar Tom burn. It's all thank you. Thank you for referring me to those tail bags Back to you Trav my pleasure.

Travis: Hey Trev with this you also get blue red and it's and well with a new color style yeah, but the and for 12 grand, I mean it's the truth is I Mean 12 grand is Anything on the market and you get that 900 CC triple which is like it's third wheel on-demand Torque wheelies like here Yeah, you can wheelie that bike in third gear by twisting the throttle and doing nothing else And I don't know anything else that really does that in in that category that has everything else with the comfort and the end The end the touring capacity like it, you know, the riding position icon is a sport touring site

Robin: This is a sport touring bike.

Travis: Yeah. Yeah, this is tall I'm gonna say it's tall and then it it's tall it's what I talk But like that's the trade-off now that we're like nuancing things like it's got a comfortable riding position It is tall but power precision adjustability capability Luggage capacity, I think the Tracer 900 GT is the standard It's pretty well.

Robin: No, it's not the standard What was the standard?

Travis: I would you put against it?

Robin: I would put the Two bikes maybe three I would say that the the bikes I would put against it are one the Super Duke GT

Travis: to Yeah, but but the Super Duke GT can't stand against it in price That's true, okay, if you're talking price then I would say price is a factor price is a factor So, I mean, yeah, the super GT amazeballs you but you can afford it John our shout out But you can't quite afford to GT get the Tracer 900, all right, well and then there's the r1200 RS They don't make anymore.

Robin: They make the r1250 RS, which is just not as cool. I'm sorry It's not even on their site. Yeah. Yeah You know what?

Travis: The r1250 are again. It's another six grand more.

Robin: It's it's an overpriced.

Travis: It's an overpriced Kawasaki Ninja is what it is You know, yeah, just get the Tracer 900 if you got the ins and even we there's that video on the super slick We're not doing a super slick segment this time, right? Like there's that video of like the like the five foot nothing girl with It's the Ducati with the multi strata, yeah You see just work on just buy a buy a $15 dirt bike learn to ride a bike that's taller than you are and and just go with it

Robin: Ladies and gentlemen, if you didn't know Travis kind of likes that bike I personally would go with I would probably start angling towards the Probably start looking at the Yamaha's myself. I'd look at the I really like it Why am I saying it we're talking about we're talking about Yamaha, yeah, but you're talking about the FJR I'm talking about the FJR now. No, no, no, actually, I'm not the FJR is The standard sport tourer. Have you heard of John Ryan? Yeah, but that right there It's been around too long. That's the problem right here in this conversation. The FJR has been around too long and Is overly accessible and it represents something we've seen so much of Whereas It's inspiring It's it's the tracer is the tracer is the Facebook to the FJR is my space like listen to this Listen to this shit. What the fuck are you talking about?

Travis: But I'll go with it, but you're gonna have to work a little harder Yeah, well, it's like the FJR is amazing, but it's like 1300 CC's like who needs all that It's like sport bike styling, yeah These days, you know There are also the jigs is this there's like the midway bikes a lot I like the midway ones where there's still enough power to have fun in a usable way.

Tim: Yes Yeah, it's illiterate actually use it and you're gonna you know more frequently ring that snack a little bit than you would an FJR where an FJR is gonna be a little too easy to hit 150 without really paying attention to what you're doing.

Robin: The latest version of the FJR is today's Honda Pacific Coast How's that? Which were look?

Travis: Well, no, it's not quite that bad Right now and it looks amazing in the arrow and all this stuff is I mean, it's it's like a Ferrari It's yeah, it's like it's like a Ferrari or a Lamborghini It's not bought by people who want to to use its potential. Yeah Yeah, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't track it for example because like because its potential is so high you just can't you can't use it 99% of the time you can't you actually use potential, you know, what'd be great though This would be kind of in the class of a sportier Goldwing Yeah, yes sexy. Yeah, especially the sportier. Yeah the new Goldwing.

Robin: Yes Yes. All right. What we got actually, let's see how quickly we wrap this up what we got Alright, yeah, we're Ben on a Harley.

Tim: No Ninja 400 or is he 400?

Travis: Yeah, which by actually I would say motorcycles. Do you have a motorcycle? Do you do you like motorcycles by just buy one of these? I don't care if you ride my things off Go buy one of these right now.

Tim: Yeah simple be the perfect fun around town bike that you can still take out for a weekend Absolutely If you're crazy like me, you could probably take it across country.

Travis: Yeah, get your partner on it go right across country Just go buy one. I don't care like like you you accidentally subscribe to this podcast right now Go buy a z400 So do it just don't care. I don't care what you do for a job. I don't care what's money But you can finance it.

Tim: It's cool They got easy finance the go buy a z400 right now the concourse price points low and it's a good bike The concourse thing with the FJ are still a big old bubble butt machine, but it's cool.

Robin: Yes

Travis: Well, if you're cozy if you're a guy if you like that, I mean

Robin: I'd rather have Tom ZX 1000 I'd rather have the ninja 1000 would be my preference over this and that is what I believe would be the standard in today's sport touring market

Travis: Yeah, I would rather a z1 ZX 1000 over the concourse to but the concourse doesn't it looks real good Good if you're too up if you're too up road bike gosh, yeah

Tim: My bike is great for you know Emphasis sport bike sport touring bike emphasis on the sport concourse is more emphasis on the road the travel love it That's a great explanation. I'm sure that this thing would feel just effortless. Yeah, I love Z 900

Travis: But you don't have but you don't think yeah, you don't think you don't have the wind protection of the concourse or the When you're doing miles Effortless erections

Robin: Yeah, I want to ride it today and that is an Indian it is an Indian and there it is again But it's in but it's in flat flat

Travis: Flat

Robin: Green it's in Willie's green with with

Travis: brown leather tan saddle leather bags

Tim: Yeah, so this is a ammo target up for in bed Indian Scout Yeah, so it's the water-cooled Indian Scout just tarted up a little bit and with the old-school styling and was pretty I thought it Looked good

Travis: It looks really good, but it's like damn it Polaris make a sport bike with a Scott motor Just make like a standard make like a street tracker or a naked standard or a Retro naked v-twin something something vengeful like this like this concept that is at the show and

Tim: These are not concepts.

Travis: These are production These are available bikes that adventure bike is not a production bike this one has laser beam this one here No, the adventure bike is not a production bike The one there no adventure bike is not a production bike, which one is talking about the one with the bags on right here No, no go back like to the adventure bike. Yeah, it's only got a bag on one side That is not a production bike that's a package no, it's not yes it is They make an adventure bike package of the Scout listen package the FTR 1200 s with a tour package That you buy all these extra parts with that wheel and the squint at with that wheel and everything and that color scheme No, I thought they were a lot of the package stuff.

Tim: It's like plastics. There's a they say it's a Lonely hard where you get this How do you pronounce it by the way? Akrapovic Akrapovic Akrapovic, yeah, I've heard that they're very touchy about how you say it, but I've never heard of it, right? So they've got a rally package they've got a sport package because this this looks like an adventure bike Yeah Maybe it's Tim's photography, but that looks like an adventure bike I think of it more of a commuter because you know, it's got that little they actually call that saddle bag. They call it a Messenger bag, it's kind of small. Yeah.

Travis: Yeah, I see it as a scrambler It's got the tank bag too, but it looks good in that matte finish. It looks good. Oh, it's beautiful It's beautiful.

Tim: Yeah, and I found them to be very comfortable for a tall guy

Travis: Yeah, I mean I've ridden this I've ridden the Scout I did the Indian test ride when they came in the town here and I rode like their big whatever the Chieftain like the Chieftain touring with the Batwing and the infotainment system and bullshit garbage it and I and I ran the Scout which is like what like a third of the Displacement and it was better.

Robin: The Scout was better on the highway than the big chief in well We're looking at the very we're looking at the very last shot here of the white Indian Tan seat that looks like a nice out with the with the high pipes. That looks like fun to me Oh my pipes and rear pegs.

Travis: Yeah, is that is that factory option? Can you spec that factory?

Tim: I think so I think so.

Travis: I'd have to look at their website, but you can get if you can get those rear pegs factory spec'd Then yeah, if you want a naked Scrambler by the Indian love it.

Robin: How do we wrap this up?

Travis: Yeah, you got two hours and ten minutes right now, you know Guys that Let's wrap it up. Um, if you're a music if your motorcycle is in the Midwest Sorry, play some music your drummer Let me know like DM me find find my info and and DM me if you're a drummer and you're interested in my project

Robin: And if you're down south look up Robin Dean, I'm right now I'm in Arizona and we're still leading group tours down here as well

Travis: You have strong opinions on anything we've talked about to his message Robin Dean. What's the the kind of info?

Robin: podcast at the riding obsession calm Tim you wanna you wanna bring us out on the sponsorship message?

Tim: Oh, hang on a second my iPad dropped off the outline here this episode brought to you by iPad Yeah, well because you know, I'm running my Screen share with on my computer. So I Had to double double.

Robin: I love doing the IMS episode. We only do this once a year Tom You are it is you are a miracle of so ever you're here this time. Do you have anything to add?

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Tim: All right, I'm up and ready to go So, all right, am I taking that next line? Yeah All right The riding this episode of the riding obsession podcast is brought to you by the ugly Apple Cafe of Madison, Wisconsin Where they use local overstocked produce to offer a quick tasty breakfast

Robin: The riding obsession comm is always seeking sponsors for this podcast sponsors are given three focused mentions toward the start middle and end of their Designated episode their contributions are put towards bettering the program's content and recording equipment. I'll take this opportunity to say Thank you Tom for promoting our next group riding tour Which is scheduled for spring of this year dubbed the trip seven store seven riders will cover seven states in seven days starting May 26th Of 2018 the twisty sport touring getaway of epic proportions And we hope you'll sign up more information about that tours available via the writing obsession comm visit the group tours link Which is anchored under events in our navigation menu

Travis: And that's our episode for this round again. I want to just reiterate the trip sevens tour Opportunities two slots left. Please sign up it is amazing Blue Ridge Parkway Smoky Mountains tail the dragon it's worth the money and more like you basically just kind of cover your own costs We're not making money on this stuff and our new our new alternate to the Blue Ridge Parkway is just dumb. It's so good It's just silly if you're seriously into sport bike mountain road riding We'll give you the the air quotes advanced route routes Blow your mind. Yeah, good stuff 300 miles a day of just Non-stop twisty roads check it out. If you listen to this podcast just just scope it out. It's a click It's a 10 minutes your time check it out. We don't make money on this. You're gonna have a good time We're gonna have a good time. You're gonna make some friends check it out But yeah big shout out to Tom Burns for joining us I know you kind of have some interjection here and there Tom anything you want to close out with anything you want to uh, Thanks. I mean, thank you first off for just coming in and joining us and having hell Yeah to have some input for this.

Tim: Thank you for inviting me. It was a pleasure.

Travis: It was fun last great if you're in the Northern Illinois Chicagoland southern Wisconsin area hit us up. Hang out with me. Hang out with Tom. Let us know Tune in next time for our discussion all things Specific to motorcycles sport touring or just motorcycling in general. We love bikes We don't care what you ride, but we're kind of sport touring riders for the Rhino session. That's um That's all I've seen so good for the riding obsession comm I'm Travis Burleson Tim that's you Oh daydream in here, what's your name Tim?

Robin: I'm Tim Clark, and I'm Robin Dean safe travels everyone

The Gist

Seriously, though. We're talkin' sport touring bikes, sport bikes, touring bikes ... and all of the bizarrely inventive nicknacks from the back booths. Yes, we even delve into the cruiser realm.

Travis is folkin' off like a punk. Tim is amped by what he saw at the Mama Tried "Flat Out Friday" scene (Milwaukee). Robin is still riding his own ride somewhere down south.

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In this episode, we're joined by the one and only Tom Burns! Tom is both a long time site supporter and resident author. He and Tim attended this year's IMS and they've both got plenty to tell.

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