WEBVTT 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.546 Brian Wringer: Robin, what you got for the random song of the minute, the coolest thing we've ever done? 00:02:05.067 --> 00:02:09.821 Robin Dean: If you want to hear our random songs of the minute, visit radio.tro.bike in your web browser. 00:02:10.274 --> 00:02:16.437 Robin Dean: This one comes at an eerily dark moment in television history where we've lost 00:02:16.437 --> 00:02:20.229 Robin Dean: a great young actor to their own self-inflicted demise. 00:02:20.525 --> 00:02:24.467 Robin Dean: But I won't get into the details of that. Point is, if you know, you know. 00:02:24.902 --> 00:02:31.468 Robin Dean: The song is DMZ by TV on the radio. That's DMZ by TV on the radio. 00:02:31.932 --> 00:02:36.557 Robin Dean: This is one of those dark anti-hero songs that definitely makes me twist the 00:02:36.557 --> 00:02:39.949 Robin Dean: throttle, if you know what I mean. So check that out. What do we got in news, Brian? 00:02:40.402 --> 00:02:45.864 Brian Wringer: In intercom news, Socardo adds bigger groups with one update day catch. 00:02:45.998 --> 00:02:48.024 Brian Wringer: Interesting. Interesting headline. All right. 00:02:48.476 --> 00:02:51.750 Robin Dean: Okay, stop. You were not allowed to say interesting anymore. 00:02:52.012 --> 00:02:55.347 Robin Dean: The amount of times I have to edit the word interesting out of you reading the 00:02:55.347 --> 00:02:58.558 Robin Dean: news is insane. You have no idea. 00:02:58.819 --> 00:02:59.440 Brian Wringer: All right. 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.577 Robin Dean: It's like in the middle, you'd be like, the useful part, interesting, 00:03:02.577 --> 00:03:04.317 Robin Dean: maybe less time, interesting. Go ahead. 00:03:04.764 --> 00:03:07.857 Brian Wringer: That's a rant I didn't expect. All right, so let's get into it. 00:03:07.857 --> 00:03:12.317 Brian Wringer: Cardo's free Mesh Boost update, LUT's supported PacTalk Pro, 00:03:12.637 --> 00:03:18.179 Brian Wringer: Edge, and Neo units form groups of up to 31 riders, which sounds like a nightmare. 00:03:18.638 --> 00:03:22.713 Brian Wringer: So public mesh opens a shared conversation without creating a private group, 00:03:23.102 --> 00:03:28.425 Brian Wringer: while remote grouping lets friends join in through an invitation before the ride. You got all that? 00:03:28.895 --> 00:03:29.412 Robin Dean: Sort of. 00:03:29.893 --> 00:03:34.897 Brian Wringer: Mixed groups with older DMC units still top out at 15. 00:03:35.356 --> 00:03:39.117 Brian Wringer: So the useful part may be less time standing around a gas station trying to 00:03:39.117 --> 00:03:40.250 Brian Wringer: get everyone connected. 00:03:40.697 --> 00:03:45.437 Brian Wringer: But there is one catch. Cardo warns that the update erases existing DMC groups 00:03:45.437 --> 00:03:46.554 Brian Wringer: so they need to be rebuilt. 00:03:47.012 --> 00:03:50.368 Brian Wringer: That is a garage night job, not a five minutes before departure job. 00:03:50.832 --> 00:03:56.437 Brian Wringer: So 31 people can now talk at once. And whether 31 people should be talking at 00:03:56.437 --> 00:03:59.277 Brian Wringer: once on a ride is a very different question. 00:03:59.730 --> 00:04:03.759 Robin Dean: This is just news. It's not news that I personally care about. 00:04:04.101 --> 00:04:09.685 Robin Dean: I will, I'm open to talking to one person, maybe on an occasion two people. 00:04:10.150 --> 00:04:14.447 Robin Dean: But once you get four people talking, no, no, no, no. My unit will suddenly 00:04:14.447 --> 00:04:17.365 Robin Dean: not work anymore and I'll have music playing for some reason. 00:04:17.574 --> 00:04:17.894 Brian Wringer: Yeah. 00:04:18.341 --> 00:04:24.067 Robin Dean: All right. Next up, a phone mount that fixes the angle instead of adding another screen. 00:04:24.067 --> 00:04:28.357 Robin Dean: Now, originally when I read this, I thought, I don't know if I even care about 00:04:28.357 --> 00:04:32.467 Robin Dean: this. but then I realized how important the phone angle actually can be if it's 00:04:32.467 --> 00:04:34.775 Robin Dean: out of sight where it should be. It should always be out of sight. 00:04:35.007 --> 00:04:37.433 Robin Dean: So when you want it in sight, it should be easy to access, right? 00:04:37.665 --> 00:04:42.677 Robin Dean: Well, this comes from quadlockcase.com. Now, Quadlock's handlebar mount pro 00:04:42.677 --> 00:04:46.704 Robin Dean: adjustable uses one bolt to set both rotation and tilt. 00:04:47.157 --> 00:04:50.687 Robin Dean: Existing pro and large pro owners can buy the adjustable arm separately instead 00:04:50.687 --> 00:04:51.673 Robin Dean: of replacing everything. 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.618 Robin Dean: This is a small fix for an irritating problem. Honestly, I get this. 00:04:55.850 --> 00:04:59.484 Robin Dean: The phone is securely attached, but the screen points at the sky? Yeah, no. 00:04:59.838 --> 00:05:03.652 Robin Dean: Quad Lock says this version targets touring and cruiser handlebar layouts. 00:05:04.117 --> 00:05:09.057 Robin Dean: So fit does still matter. A better viewing angle is useful only if the phone 00:05:09.057 --> 00:05:11.274 Robin Dean: also clears the instruments, cables, and tank. 00:05:11.588 --> 00:05:14.787 Robin Dean: The upgrade worth paying for is the one that makes the cockpit less awkward, 00:05:14.787 --> 00:05:16.162 Robin Dean: not simply more expensive. 00:05:16.528 --> 00:05:19.787 Robin Dean: So I get this. It's like if you want your phone at the exact angle that's right 00:05:19.787 --> 00:05:21.613 Robin Dean: for your ergonomics, yeah, there you go. 00:05:22.077 --> 00:05:25.557 Brian Wringer: Yeah, we need options. Good. And yeah, that is one thing you see with the Quad 00:05:25.557 --> 00:05:27.017 Brian Wringer: Lock. They kind of point it. 00:05:27.947 --> 00:05:28.835 Robin Dean: Faces the street. 00:05:29.300 --> 00:05:34.783 Brian Wringer: In movie maker news, the Insta360 X6 takes aim at the footage. 00:05:34.783 --> 00:05:37.427 Brian Wringer: Nobody gets around to editing. That's the big problem. 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:44.843 Brian Wringer: The Insta360 X6 launched in August at $700 and has now appeared in an October 00:05:44.843 --> 00:05:47.034 Brian Wringer: motorcycle review. Interesting. Nice. 00:05:47.620 --> 00:05:53.413 Brian Wringer: Gotcha. Beyond its 8K 360 degree recording, Insta360 says the camera can produce 00:05:53.413 --> 00:05:57.180 Brian Wringer: flat 4K clips with subject tracking and, 00:05:57.644 --> 00:06:02.493 Brian Wringer: automatically assemble highlights while charging using an AI hamster or something, 00:06:02.493 --> 00:06:04.001 Brian Wringer: I'm gathering, probably. 00:06:04.581 --> 00:06:08.383 Brian Wringer: It also has replaceable lenses and built-in storage for the time the memory 00:06:08.383 --> 00:06:10.554 Brian Wringer: card is still sitting at home beside the computer. 00:06:11.019 --> 00:06:14.438 Brian Wringer: So the real Turing problem here is not always missing the shot. 00:06:14.769 --> 00:06:18.783 Brian Wringer: Sometimes it's returning home with hours and hours of footage and no desire 00:06:18.783 --> 00:06:20.144 Brian Wringer: to spend the weekend editing. 00:06:20.614 --> 00:06:25.753 Brian Wringer: So yeah, automatic highlights sound really useful if they preserve the moments 00:06:25.753 --> 00:06:27.174 Brian Wringer: and the things we actually care about. 00:06:27.638 --> 00:06:31.103 Robin Dean: Starts to get into that zen in the motorcycle maintenance. Like, 00:06:31.103 --> 00:06:32.973 Robin Dean: what is the definition of quality? 00:06:33.438 --> 00:06:37.263 Robin Dean: How do we trust its judgment on what we should or should not keep? 00:06:37.716 --> 00:06:41.533 Brian Wringer: Yeah, I'd need to know more about this and how you can control what you like and so forth. 00:06:41.533 --> 00:06:44.693 Brian Wringer: But I think you can like hit a button and say, yeah, I want that. 00:06:44.693 --> 00:06:49.103 Brian Wringer: You know, that was a neat thing. Even like a camera could choose like a technically 00:06:49.103 --> 00:06:53.883 Brian Wringer: impressive corner and still miss the roadside conversation or the or the animal 00:06:53.883 --> 00:06:57.968 Brian Wringer: or whatever that made the trip so less editing is very appealing, 00:06:58.444 --> 00:07:04.592 Brian Wringer: handing over the storytelling decisions we're not so sure yet but remains to be seen very nice. 00:07:05.078 --> 00:07:08.407 Robin Dean: Next up, this comes from Ducati.com. Direct from the source, 00:07:08.407 --> 00:07:12.307 Robin Dean: Ducati wants service intervals to reflect how hard the engine actually works. 00:07:12.307 --> 00:07:18.197 Robin Dean: Ducati's 2027 Desmo 450 MX update includes predictive maintenance through an 00:07:18.197 --> 00:07:19.637 Robin Dean: accessory Wi-Fi module. 00:07:20.096 --> 00:07:24.990 Robin Dean: Ducati says the system uses writing data to adjust engine maintenance intervals to actual use. 00:07:25.413 --> 00:07:29.017 Robin Dean: This is motocross equipment, not a new service schedule for our street bikes, 00:07:29.017 --> 00:07:30.998 Robin Dean: but the idea reaches well beyond a racetrack. 00:07:31.462 --> 00:07:36.065 Robin Dean: A mileage counter cannot tell the whole story of an engine's life we know this 00:07:36.530 --> 00:07:39.667 Robin Dean: the appealing promise is maintenance based on the work the engine has actually 00:07:39.667 --> 00:07:41.661 Robin Dean: done rather than treating every hour alike 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:46.265 Robin Dean: the ownership question is whether we can see and understand that recommendation 00:07:46.700 --> 00:07:51.088 Robin Dean: budget for it and share it with an independent mechanic a smarter service reminder 00:07:51.250 --> 00:07:56.591 Robin Dean: is useful a mysterious countdown that only the dealer understands is less inviting so yeah 00:07:57.043 --> 00:07:59.075 Robin Dean: i get it It makes sense. How hard are you flexing? 00:07:59.278 --> 00:08:01.240 Robin Dean: How much you lifting, bro? How much you lifting? 00:08:01.699 --> 00:08:06.070 Brian Wringer: Yeah, and this kind of stuff is already in place on a lot of four-wheeled vehicles, 00:08:06.523 --> 00:08:10.848 Brian Wringer: where it actually monitors, optically monitors the oil quality and things like that. 00:08:11.295 --> 00:08:15.537 Robin Dean: Oh, my 2015 Ford F-350 does it. It tells me, hey, man, you might want to check 00:08:15.537 --> 00:08:18.835 Robin Dean: your engine coolant, like the quality of it, and it's like, not the level. 00:08:18.981 --> 00:08:20.037 Brian Wringer: Oh, really? Okay, yeah. 00:08:20.496 --> 00:08:23.514 Robin Dean: But it detects the oil health, the compression, all that stuff. 00:08:24.426 --> 00:08:25.378 Robin Dean: What's up with Kawasaki? 00:08:25.836 --> 00:08:30.957 Brian Wringer: In the category of are we sure we want this? Kawasaki puts radar and real touring 00:08:30.957 --> 00:08:32.831 Brian Wringer: equipment on the Versus 900. 00:08:33.290 --> 00:08:38.287 Brian Wringer: And again, this is straight from the source, Kawasaki.com. So Kawasaki has announced 00:08:38.287 --> 00:08:45.457 Brian Wringer: the 2027 Versus 900 SELT ABS with a 948cc inline four, 00:08:45.921 --> 00:08:49.304 Brian Wringer: standard hard saddlebags, heated grips, and a center stand. 00:08:49.751 --> 00:08:53.843 Brian Wringer: That's a lot going on. They've got a serious entry for a tall rounder sport tour. 00:08:54.302 --> 00:08:54.598 Robin Dean: Yeah. 00:08:55.167 --> 00:08:57.726 Brian Wringer: Who thought we'd be talking about this 10 years ago? Anyway, 00:08:57.726 --> 00:09:01.239 Brian Wringer: its writer assistance package includes adaptive cruise control light, 00:09:01.691 --> 00:09:05.569 Brian Wringer: whatever that means, forward collision warning, and blind spot detection. 00:09:06.022 --> 00:09:07.020 Robin Dean: You don't even have to write it. 00:09:07.479 --> 00:09:08.768 Brian Wringer: Yeah, just get on and push the button. 00:09:09.226 --> 00:09:10.736 Robin Dean: Or take a nap and send it out on its own. 00:09:11.125 --> 00:09:13.836 Brian Wringer: This is wild. U.S.-based MSRP is 00:09:13.836 --> 00:09:21.841 Brian Wringer: $13,599 or $14,439 with Kawasaki's listed destination charge before taxes. 00:09:22.305 --> 00:09:25.886 Brian Wringer: So the forbidden word part is not another model name. 00:09:25.886 --> 00:09:30.846 Brian Wringer: It's getting the luggage and all the tour equipment in the same package as radar 00:09:30.846 --> 00:09:34.556 Brian Wringer: assistance and all the other rider aids. That makes the comparison with a cheaper 00:09:34.556 --> 00:09:37.647 Brian Wringer: bike plus a shopping cart full of accessories more interesting. 00:09:38.106 --> 00:09:41.415 Brian Wringer: And again, this is a spec sheet and a price sheet. We can't settle wind protection, 00:09:41.699 --> 00:09:47.114 Brian Wringer: loaded handling, or whether the warnings are useful and helpful rather than just nagging at you. 00:09:47.573 --> 00:09:51.276 Brian Wringer: Those are things that have to earn or keep on a long day. And overall, 00:09:51.276 --> 00:09:54.336 Brian Wringer: this is stuff people are getting used to on their other vehicles. 00:09:54.794 --> 00:09:57.354 Brian Wringer: So it kind of makes sense it's leaking into motorcycles. 00:09:57.819 --> 00:10:04.222 Brian Wringer: The price point is the surprising part here. This is not a $20,000 bike. This is $14,000. 00:10:04.680 --> 00:10:05.290 Robin Dean: Pretty good. 00:10:05.742 --> 00:10:09.649 Brian Wringer: So Robin, what have you been up to lately? Have you been doing forbidden things? 00:10:10.102 --> 00:10:13.446 Robin Dean: Yeah, it's been good. We're all set up. We're comfortable. 00:10:13.446 --> 00:10:20.236 Robin Dean: Even having been here for a week, maybe two weeks, only this past week are we 00:10:20.236 --> 00:10:25.108 Robin Dean: now officially able to embrace that we are here in New Mexico. 00:10:25.566 --> 00:10:29.467 Robin Dean: I did get a chance to go out and ride the road that shall not be named. 00:10:29.885 --> 00:10:31.766 Robin Dean: It remains most excellent. 00:10:32.225 --> 00:10:37.095 Robin Dean: Got to visit with a friend here who showed up for the Honda Demos Tour. 00:10:37.554 --> 00:10:41.006 Robin Dean: I almost ended up doing that, but timing did not work out. so there's a honda 00:10:41.006 --> 00:10:46.436 Robin Dean: demo ride tour or as we might call it the honda e-clutch tour all the bikes 00:10:46.436 --> 00:10:50.346 Robin Dean: have them and they're all looking pretty good shout out to jason morris who's 00:10:50.346 --> 00:10:52.407 Robin Dean: great to see a man great to do some riding 00:10:52.873 --> 00:10:55.641 Robin Dean: One thing that happened that was interesting is, you know, he's been doing a 00:10:55.641 --> 00:10:58.341 Robin Dean: lot of these demo rides, which are slow. Hey, everybody, follow me. 00:10:58.341 --> 00:11:00.801 Robin Dean: And what do you think of the bike? Blah, blah, blah stuff. He hasn't gotten 00:11:00.801 --> 00:11:02.869 Robin Dean: to do any hard riding in a solid minute. 00:11:03.142 --> 00:11:06.195 Robin Dean: So during that ride, I know that road. 00:11:06.642 --> 00:11:12.424 Robin Dean: I really know that road. So looking back in the mirror, there was a lot of disappearance happening. 00:11:12.848 --> 00:11:18.021 Robin Dean: And I finally realized, why don't I just relax and work on my line at a pace 00:11:18.021 --> 00:11:22.101 Robin Dean: where I can paint the picture more slowly and have them do the same thing? 00:11:22.101 --> 00:11:26.519 Robin Dean: And it was not a relaxed pace. We were still enjoying the breeze for sure. 00:11:26.971 --> 00:11:29.740 Robin Dean: So that's a real pleasure when you get to ask, hey, you know, 00:11:30.141 --> 00:11:34.419 Robin Dean: here you go. Here's the line. Follow it. And they did. And it was a lot of fun. 00:11:34.878 --> 00:11:45.024 Robin Dean: Then there was the chain replacement. Man, here's how that went on Maggie's SV650, my wife's bike. 00:11:45.465 --> 00:11:49.940 Robin Dean: The chain, I looked at it and it just materialized on her bike. 00:11:50.393 --> 00:11:53.824 Robin Dean: It simply existed. Come time for my own bike. 00:11:54.283 --> 00:11:58.861 Robin Dean: And I told myself that day, this has to go. You don't need to do this to yourself. 00:11:58.861 --> 00:12:03.931 Robin Dean: Don't do that thing where it gets loused up because you tell yourself it has 00:12:03.931 --> 00:12:06.485 Robin Dean: to subconsciously. Like, this has to go wrong. 00:12:06.874 --> 00:12:10.101 Robin Dean: And then your subconscious sabotages your consciousness and whatever. 00:12:10.101 --> 00:12:12.150 Robin Dean: It's like, that happened. 00:12:12.609 --> 00:12:15.651 Robin Dean: I pulled everything apart. I cleaned everything out. We degreased. 00:12:15.651 --> 00:12:18.443 Robin Dean: I cleaned out some bearings. Set it all up perfectly. 00:12:18.797 --> 00:12:20.829 Robin Dean: Got the chain rolled into place. Peace. 00:12:21.293 --> 00:12:24.939 Robin Dean: The sprockets went on no problem, put on the old chain, locked in the rear gear, 00:12:25.055 --> 00:12:28.224 Robin Dean: cranked up to 111 foot-pounds of torque. 00:12:28.683 --> 00:12:33.061 Robin Dean: And on my bike, it's a lot easier. It just has the sprocket goes on, 00:12:33.061 --> 00:12:38.241 Robin Dean: a simple washer that is not a flex washer, and then a little bit of threadlock 00:12:38.241 --> 00:12:41.749 Robin Dean: or blue, and then crank it to 111 pounds, and you're done. 00:12:42.196 --> 00:12:45.702 Robin Dean: Okay, cool. Rear sprocket, no problem. We're all set. Now it's time for the chain. 00:12:46.155 --> 00:12:51.356 Robin Dean: So I roll the new chain on, bust out my chain tool. Now, I have the lesser version 00:12:51.594 --> 00:12:57.219 Robin Dean: of the Motion Pro product. I really wish I had the PBR, but I have the standard 00:12:57.596 --> 00:12:59.431 Robin Dean: entry-level chain tool. 00:12:59.889 --> 00:13:04.381 Robin Dean: And I go on to press the plates. Everything squeezes. I give it an extra oomph. 00:13:04.381 --> 00:13:07.633 Robin Dean: And then I'm not quite sure it's quite seen. A little bit further, 00:13:07.935 --> 00:13:11.203 Robin Dean: and then I back off, and I notice, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:13:11.412 --> 00:13:15.360 Robin Dean: First off, it's ever so slightly, very slightly cockeyed. 00:13:15.818 --> 00:13:24.119 Robin Dean: And second off the side that it's cockeyed into is truly stiff like it'll go 00:13:24.398 --> 00:13:26.720 Robin Dean: but i just feel like i'm breaking o-rings like i 00:13:27.184 --> 00:13:30.541 Robin Dean: don't like it at all everything's hyper lubricated whatever so i'm like oh no 00:13:30.541 --> 00:13:34.351 Robin Dean: no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no okay call 00:13:34.351 --> 00:13:37.991 Robin Dean: a friend call a friend call okay brian of course i'm gonna call brian so he's 00:13:37.991 --> 00:13:40.255 Robin Dean: like hey man what's up let's do this thing. 00:13:40.516 --> 00:13:46.919 Robin Dean: Brian goes out into his garage, pulls out an old chain of similar or identical styling and scale. 00:13:47.378 --> 00:13:47.976 Brian Wringer: Identical. 00:13:48.434 --> 00:13:49.021 Robin Dean: 525? 00:13:50.981 --> 00:13:53.897 Brian Wringer: EK525ZVX3. Definitely, definitely, definitely great chain. Yeah. 00:13:54.355 --> 00:13:58.891 Robin Dean: Here we are in a signal chat. He's trying to guide me through the motions. 00:13:58.891 --> 00:14:01.891 Robin Dean: Like the first person I asked was, hey man, what would you do? 00:14:01.891 --> 00:14:05.201 Robin Dean: And that person was smart. They are a wise friend. They're a good friend of 00:14:05.201 --> 00:14:06.923 Robin Dean: mine here. They're like, I would replace that link. 00:14:07.388 --> 00:14:10.941 Robin Dean: I'm like, okay, now that's true. that's not a bad way to do it however I know 00:14:10.941 --> 00:14:14.313 Robin Dean: a person who might know the voodoo who do you do Brian says 00:14:14.830 --> 00:14:19.961 Robin Dean: two screwdrivers, these two pressure points, and see if you can fiddle faddle in this manner. 00:14:20.362 --> 00:14:23.428 Robin Dean: And I said, yeah, I can do that. And promptly stabbed myself in the hand with 00:14:23.428 --> 00:14:25.279 Robin Dean: a screwdriver, bleeding profusely. 00:14:25.737 --> 00:14:27.037 Brian Wringer: Sacrifice accepted. 00:14:27.490 --> 00:14:31.808 Robin Dean: That did not stop me from continuing on. Then everything slipped into place. 00:14:31.808 --> 00:14:35.698 Robin Dean: I saw the perfect distance. Everything felt the same in every linkage. 00:14:36.163 --> 00:14:41.705 Robin Dean: That saved the day. So now it comes time to actually rivet the pin. 00:14:42.158 --> 00:14:46.718 Robin Dean: Here's where things get tricky. So I knew Brian could help me with this situation 00:14:46.718 --> 00:14:49.136 Robin Dean: beforehand, but time to rivet the pin. 00:14:49.368 --> 00:14:53.855 Robin Dean: The default dowel that comes with that particular Motion Pro tool, 00:14:54.314 --> 00:14:57.582 Robin Dean: it's nowhere near enough to really get that to work. 00:14:57.832 --> 00:15:00.386 Robin Dean: Brian's logic is sound. You get the ball. 00:15:01.151 --> 00:15:07.164 Robin Dean: Go into the rivet point, you flex it down until the ball is disappeared into 00:15:07.164 --> 00:15:09.330 Robin Dean: it and the shoulder touches the edge. 00:15:09.754 --> 00:15:11.995 Robin Dean: But that is where you might want to stop. 00:15:12.436 --> 00:15:16.394 Robin Dean: Food for thought, the instructions actually say otherwise. They say whatever 00:15:16.394 --> 00:15:20.424 Robin Dean: they say about continue going and yada yada, but it doesn't change the fact 00:15:20.424 --> 00:15:25.468 Robin Dean: that I don't think that particular portion of the tool is adequate for that scale of chain. 00:15:25.921 --> 00:15:29.494 Robin Dean: So the next morning I got my friends come over, he brings his tool. 00:15:29.494 --> 00:15:36.784 Robin Dean: So long story short, I've got Brian, Travis Burleson, the two of them in a group 00:15:36.784 --> 00:15:41.500 Robin Dean: chat on Signal with me and a friend of mine who says himself, 00:15:41.884 --> 00:15:44.223 Robin Dean: I'm not exactly known for my chain work. 00:15:44.682 --> 00:15:51.589 Robin Dean: He shows up with the better tool, the PBR, which has a really good riveter bead. 00:15:52.048 --> 00:15:55.879 Robin Dean: And he's just like, all right, all right, here you go. So I've got at least 00:15:56.019 --> 00:16:01.046 Robin Dean: two articles out of this and a podcast episode that I'm introing now for the next time around. 00:16:01.504 --> 00:16:04.099 Robin Dean: There's all these philosophical notions of what I'm looking for. 00:16:04.314 --> 00:16:08.534 Robin Dean: Travis is like, just fake it till you make it, man. Brian's like, no, be the rivet. 00:16:08.801 --> 00:16:11.864 Robin Dean: And then my buddy who shows up with the tool, it's almost like he handed me 00:16:11.864 --> 00:16:14.658 Robin Dean: the tool. It was like, here you go. Are you done yet? Are you done yet? 00:16:14.809 --> 00:16:15.954 Robin Dean: Are you done yet? Are you done? 00:16:16.514 --> 00:16:19.680 Robin Dean: So this is all happening. All this noise, right? 00:16:20.133 --> 00:16:24.134 Robin Dean: Be ready because we're going to do an episode at least a little bit dedicated 00:16:24.134 --> 00:16:27.144 Robin Dean: to this subject matter and there's going to be two articles one that tells this 00:16:27.144 --> 00:16:29.728 Robin Dean: story and one that tells the process 00:16:30.193 --> 00:16:35.394 Robin Dean: that's how that went the rest of my activities i uh did besides the chain make 00:16:35.394 --> 00:16:38.963 Robin Dean: some big buys today and i'm happy to say i ordered another set of tires 00:16:39.421 --> 00:16:41.285 Brian Wringer: Oh so many tires. 00:16:41.743 --> 00:16:49.679 Robin Dean: The same ones as before man Pirelli Angel SDs I ordered a small tape to a bolt 00:16:50.126 --> 00:16:52.394 Robin Dean: ambient temperature thermometer and I 00:16:52.813 --> 00:16:59.634 Robin Dean: I ordered the OneVon Motorcycle CarPlay screen with Android Auto 6.25-inch waterproof GPS. 00:16:59.954 --> 00:17:06.304 Robin Dean: This thing has two cameras, TPMS, a powered remote for $150. 00:17:06.757 --> 00:17:08.214 Robin Dean: I ordered all these things today. 00:17:08.673 --> 00:17:13.555 Robin Dean: And my last update I'll say is that that Stealing Speed book, 00:17:14.019 --> 00:17:18.564 Robin Dean: Stealing Speed just keeps getting better. It's a motorsports book. 00:17:19.023 --> 00:17:22.001 Robin Dean: I can't recommend it enough. And riddled with typos. 00:17:22.442 --> 00:17:26.395 Brian Wringer: Is it a translation of a book in german or something i don't i don't remember. 00:17:26.854 --> 00:17:29.669 Robin Dean: No idea fantastic book though how are you doing 00:17:30.122 --> 00:17:34.148 Brian Wringer: It's still like halfway warm here but we've had some we've had some cold weather 00:17:34.148 --> 00:17:37.800 Brian Wringer: it's looking like fall the trees are turning so we did the kentucky thing, 00:17:38.265 --> 00:17:43.818 Brian Wringer: when i was in denver i finally had the chance to meet joanne and the man in 00:17:43.818 --> 00:17:47.286 Brian Wringer: person and we had dinner. It was awesome. 00:17:47.744 --> 00:17:51.076 Brian Wringer: She's a lot taller than she looks on Zoom. 00:17:51.529 --> 00:17:54.930 Brian Wringer: I thought I was like walking into like a hobbit situation and like, 00:17:55.390 --> 00:17:56.348 Brian Wringer: don't stare, don't stare. 00:17:56.348 --> 00:17:57.270 Robin Dean: No. 00:17:57.734 --> 00:18:01.718 Brian Wringer: I kept giving her crap about, boy, you're taller than I expected from someone 00:18:01.718 --> 00:18:06.309 Brian Wringer: who's writing articles called, hey, so you're short. Here's how to ride a motorcycle. 00:18:06.773 --> 00:18:09.768 Robin Dean: Check the shoes. Was she wearing some Gene Simmons action or? 00:18:10.227 --> 00:18:14.674 Brian Wringer: You know, I didn't even look at her shoes. I was just fascinated by the conversation, 00:18:15.132 --> 00:18:21.108 Brian Wringer: joanne and evan were lovely lovely people and robin i'm sure is insanely jealous 00:18:21.108 --> 00:18:22.504 Brian Wringer: we sent a selfie to him right away. 00:18:22.963 --> 00:18:24.932 Robin Dean: On my birthday right to the heart 00:18:25.390 --> 00:18:29.818 Brian Wringer: Yeah all the travel and stuff is done and i think this weekend coming up it's 00:18:29.818 --> 00:18:35.688 Brian Wringer: kind of kind of be the season finale as it were generally from mid-october through 00:18:35.688 --> 00:18:39.912 Brian Wringer: whenever i pretty much stay out of the countryside thanks to deer season here in indiana. 00:18:40.365 --> 00:18:41.207 Robin Dean: Eat more venison 00:18:41.659 --> 00:18:44.638 Brian Wringer: Everybody should eat more venison And we're planning a nice little, 00:18:44.638 --> 00:18:48.335 Brian Wringer: probably a dual sport ride. The days are already getting really short. 00:18:49.573 --> 00:18:53.588 Brian Wringer: The winters are not that bad here, so I do a lot of riding in the winter, 00:18:53.588 --> 00:18:57.711 Brian Wringer: but most of the time, it's mostly around town errands and things like that. 00:18:58.106 --> 00:19:04.021 Brian Wringer: Don't get out into the countryside a lot until March, but that's where I'm at. Happy to be back home. 00:19:04.474 --> 00:19:06.314 Robin Dean: We've got this show all winter. 00:19:06.773 --> 00:19:07.754 Brian Wringer: It keeps us sane. 00:19:08.201 --> 00:19:12.278 Robin Dean: After I've ridden 120 miles of perfect pavement every time we do this, 00:19:12.658 --> 00:19:15.550 Robin Dean: I will reach out and make sure that you've gotten at least 15 minutes on a bike 00:19:16.003 --> 00:19:18.307 Robin Dean: in some, fortunately, dry parking lot. 00:19:18.760 --> 00:19:21.703 Brian Wringer: Yeah. Hey, guess where I rode today? 00:19:22.162 --> 00:19:26.817 Brian Wringer: We saw some really good rocks and it was actually a little hot. I wore the mesh. 00:19:27.282 --> 00:19:30.787 Brian Wringer: Yeah, I want to hear it. Next up, we've got questions from the wild. 00:19:31.193 --> 00:19:38.757 Robin Dean: If you'd like us to field your questions, visit email.tro.bike in your web browser and send us a message. 00:19:39.221 --> 00:19:44.098 Brian Wringer: First up, a thought-provoking question. The short title is, when is a sport 00:19:44.098 --> 00:19:47.296 Brian Wringer: bike the more comfortable touring bike? And here's the details. 00:19:47.766 --> 00:19:52.088 Brian Wringer: A rider of some sort has made repeated trips of more than 1,200 miles on both 00:19:52.088 --> 00:19:57.374 Brian Wringer: a Kawasaki ZX-6R and a Triumph Tiger 900. Very different bikes. 00:19:57.826 --> 00:20:03.260 Brian Wringer: And he or she is a little puzzled because they would actually choose the Kawasaki again. 00:20:04.142 --> 00:20:09.604 Brian Wringer: They report less wind buffeting, better fuel mileage, and a riding position 00:20:09.604 --> 00:20:13.790 Brian Wringer: that works better for their back while accepting less luggage capacity. 00:20:14.243 --> 00:20:14.789 Robin Dean: Okay. 00:20:15.241 --> 00:20:17.488 Brian Wringer: That's kind of wild. I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't have guessed that. 00:20:17.935 --> 00:20:22.524 Robin Dean: Yeah. So the motorcycle that looks less suitable for touring is the one this 00:20:22.524 --> 00:20:24.413 Robin Dean: rider prefers after repeated long trips. 00:20:24.878 --> 00:20:28.554 Robin Dean: How would that preference hold up? I happen to have a friend who is faced with 00:20:28.554 --> 00:20:33.340 Robin Dean: a similar take on things, and he would say that he's built like Shrek. 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:39.789 Robin Dean: Okay he feels really good on his honda superhawk for example he loved that bike 00:20:40.242 --> 00:20:44.814 Robin Dean: and would tour it in a heartbeat so there are people like that my answer would 00:20:44.814 --> 00:20:50.564 Robin Dean: be whichever bike triggers the endorphins that make us feel better 00:20:51.544 --> 00:20:57.154 Robin Dean: typically those will have their own health benefits that outweigh the physical 00:20:57.154 --> 00:21:01.152 Robin Dean: agony we would feel if we were unhappy in the riding situation yeah Yeah. 00:21:01.708 --> 00:21:05.683 Brian Wringer: I have a very similar take. My rule in motorcycling is that if you're happy, 00:21:05.683 --> 00:21:07.136 Brian Wringer: you're happy. So be happy. 00:21:07.588 --> 00:21:07.983 Robin Dean: Yeah. 00:21:08.535 --> 00:21:12.673 Brian Wringer: If it works for you, it works. Obviously, you know, this is not the majority 00:21:12.673 --> 00:21:15.903 Brian Wringer: opinion a lot of people, at least on paper and even in personal, 00:21:15.903 --> 00:21:18.513 Brian Wringer: would be more comfortable on the Triumph Tall Rounder. 00:21:18.978 --> 00:21:23.953 Brian Wringer: But it is possible. And if it works for you, it works to tour on a sport bike. 00:21:24.416 --> 00:21:30.401 Brian Wringer: I remember Jasmine's water pipe luggage rack on her CBR1000RR. 00:21:30.587 --> 00:21:32.456 Brian Wringer: RRR, Pirate Edition. 00:21:32.914 --> 00:21:34.644 Robin Dean: That was literal plumbing on that bike. 00:21:35.109 --> 00:21:39.993 Brian Wringer: And it was amazing. And she rocked it. And then Paul on the same bike had a 00:21:39.993 --> 00:21:42.911 Brian Wringer: backpack and just a hardcore attitude. 00:21:43.369 --> 00:21:44.019 Robin Dean: I will say 00:21:44.373 --> 00:21:47.533 Brian Wringer: Hard luggage on sport bikes is really difficult to pull off. 00:21:47.533 --> 00:21:50.411 Brian Wringer: Nobody makes it. You're in a distinct minority there. 00:21:50.869 --> 00:21:54.413 Brian Wringer: So I would look at what the dual sport people are using for luggage because 00:21:54.413 --> 00:21:57.057 Brian Wringer: there are a lot of good solutions in the dual sport world, 00:21:57.516 --> 00:22:04.465 Brian Wringer: for packing a lot of stuff very close to a small bike that doesn't want to carry a lot of stuff, 00:22:04.923 --> 00:22:08.323 Brian Wringer: and it's also waterproof it's very durable stuff like that so i'd kind of look 00:22:08.323 --> 00:22:12.928 Brian Wringer: over in that direction if you really want to increase your luggage capacity a little bit, 00:22:13.387 --> 00:22:16.683 Brian Wringer: they have different systems there's a giant loop idea where it kind of looks 00:22:16.683 --> 00:22:22.883 Brian Wringer: like a pair of pants full of stuff and as always the roll top bags can be waterproof 00:22:22.883 --> 00:22:24.687 Brian Wringer: and do a good job at keeping your stuff clean. 00:22:25.145 --> 00:22:28.135 Brian Wringer: For any other type of bag, use a waterproof liner. 00:22:28.594 --> 00:22:31.392 Brian Wringer: The rain covers that they give you on soft luggage. 00:22:31.618 --> 00:22:32.675 Robin Dean: Oh, yeah. No, no. 00:22:33.127 --> 00:22:35.055 Brian Wringer: They only make everything worse, so don't even bother. 00:22:35.513 --> 00:22:38.648 Robin Dean: I will contest Brian's wording here. 00:22:39.106 --> 00:22:43.576 Robin Dean: There are solutions for sport bikes in terms of hard luggage, though rare. 00:22:43.954 --> 00:22:47.976 Robin Dean: Most of them are provided through SW MoTeC or 00:22:48.453 --> 00:22:50.892 Robin Dean: twisted throttle. The issue is the hardware. 00:22:51.339 --> 00:22:52.877 Brian Wringer: Yeah, GV makes the hardware. 00:22:53.341 --> 00:23:01.637 Robin Dean: And so does SW Motech. So SW Motech makes an adapter that fits the GV top cases. 00:23:02.095 --> 00:23:10.642 Robin Dean: And they also make some hardware for some bikes that are also adapters for GV 00:23:10.642 --> 00:23:15.232 Robin Dean: side bags. But your selection really gets narrowed down, you're going to want 00:23:15.232 --> 00:23:16.602 Robin Dean: to pick and choose carefully. 00:23:17.060 --> 00:23:22.592 Robin Dean: The one that I know I'm limited to now on my own bike is the Blaze saddlebag 00:23:22.592 --> 00:23:27.485 Robin Dean: system, which is a sporty set of thermoformed soft bags. 00:23:27.868 --> 00:23:29.662 Robin Dean: And I like them a lot. They're really good. 00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:30.411 Brian Wringer: Uh-huh. 00:23:30.962 --> 00:23:37.331 Robin Dean: Their answer to Brian's qualm about those external rain covers that were always 00:23:37.331 --> 00:23:41.376 Robin Dean: crap, they always just tore apart, is they said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 00:23:41.823 --> 00:23:47.441 Robin Dean: Let the bags get drenched and then put a dry bag on the inside of the bag, 00:23:47.441 --> 00:23:48.638 Robin Dean: which works really well. 00:23:49.091 --> 00:23:53.491 Robin Dean: And speaking of dry bags, you can also check out our article on TRO called the Dry Bag Diddy. 00:23:53.863 --> 00:23:58.478 Robin Dean: So if you just look up Dry Bag Diddy, D-I-T-T-Y, or maybe it's D-I-D-D-Y, I don't remember. 00:23:58.844 --> 00:24:01.961 Robin Dean: Point is, if you get one of those in a rack, oh, man, you're a golden. 00:24:02.414 --> 00:24:05.711 Robin Dean: Travis Burleson, instead of making it perpendicular to the bike, 00:24:05.711 --> 00:24:09.571 Robin Dean: he's running it as a hot dog, you know, like it takes up the passenger seat and the rack. 00:24:09.989 --> 00:24:13.671 Robin Dean: And you could haul a small refrigerator in that thing. So there's solutions. 00:24:13.671 --> 00:24:16.810 Robin Dean: No problems, only solutions. Just got to figure them out, you know. 00:24:17.274 --> 00:24:18.023 Robin Dean: You ready for the next one? 00:24:18.482 --> 00:24:19.566 Brian Wringer: Absolutely. 00:24:20.019 --> 00:24:25.087 Robin Dean: How much tire life would you trade for cornering confidence? This comes from Reddit. 00:24:25.557 --> 00:24:29.721 Robin Dean: A mountain road rider deliberately avoids putting miles on straight roads, 00:24:29.721 --> 00:24:32.175 Robin Dean: but says their tires are wearing aggressively. 00:24:32.505 --> 00:24:39.930 Robin Dean: They named the tires as a Rosso 4 Corsa, that's R-O-S-S-O, and asked what alternatives would last longer. 00:24:40.232 --> 00:24:43.481 Robin Dean: Their post does not give the motorcycle tire pressure or mileage, 00:24:43.481 --> 00:24:47.871 Robin Dean: so there's not really information to pin the wear on one cause. 00:24:47.871 --> 00:24:51.505 Robin Dean: It's like, I run mine at spec, 30-30 at a track day. 00:24:51.964 --> 00:24:54.448 Brian Wringer: Yeah, there's plenty of information here. We'll get to that. 00:24:54.907 --> 00:25:00.851 Robin Dean: I don't even know that brand. I used to run the Michelin R5s when they were 00:25:01.191 --> 00:25:02.564 Robin Dean: less than a small mortgage. 00:25:02.883 --> 00:25:05.135 Robin Dean: Then I ran to the Dunlop RoadSmart 4s. 00:25:05.472 --> 00:25:09.501 Robin Dean: And then they decided to chase the price range. Now I'm on the Pirelli Angel 00:25:09.501 --> 00:25:10.795 Robin Dean: STs and I'm happy as a clam. 00:25:11.248 --> 00:25:13.344 Robin Dean: They all feel right, but it's like, I don't know. 00:25:13.843 --> 00:25:18.469 Robin Dean: Look at the reputable brands and determine whether or not the reviews are speaking 00:25:18.469 --> 00:25:20.262 Robin Dean: any truth. And then go test them. 00:25:20.709 --> 00:25:24.418 Robin Dean: At spec. I don't believe these guys are getting 21,000. Yeah. 00:25:24.610 --> 00:25:27.829 Brian Wringer: Yeah, you always get one of those squeakers. Yeah. First off, 00:25:27.829 --> 00:25:33.468 Brian Wringer: the tire he's talking about is the Pirelli Rosso 4 Corsa. Corsa means track. 00:25:33.933 --> 00:25:38.455 Brian Wringer: This tire is one step down. It is street legal. It's a DOT tire. 00:25:38.913 --> 00:25:40.452 Robin Dean: It's damn near a slick. 00:25:40.904 --> 00:25:46.129 Brian Wringer: It's pretty much a spec series race tire. Wow. But they have a tire that's one 00:25:46.129 --> 00:25:48.991 Brian Wringer: step racier. That's like pretty much track only. 00:25:49.455 --> 00:25:51.197 Brian Wringer: So there's your trouble, buddy. 00:25:51.638 --> 00:25:55.516 Robin Dean: On to the next question. Siping is your friend. Dual compound. 00:25:55.893 --> 00:25:59.271 Brian Wringer: So let's say you don't care about spending all the money and you don't care about the, 00:25:59.741 --> 00:26:05.341 Brian Wringer: spooning on tires every Saturday. The biggest problem is when you have rain 00:26:05.341 --> 00:26:08.570 Brian Wringer: or crap on the road, as you often do in the mountains, the weather is unpredictable. 00:26:09.029 --> 00:26:15.048 Brian Wringer: I would say this rider would be much better served by a good sport touring tire. 00:26:15.510 --> 00:26:17.467 Brian Wringer: There are grades of sport touring tires. 00:26:17.670 --> 00:26:18.065 Robin Dean: Yes. 00:26:18.483 --> 00:26:22.111 Brian Wringer: There are some that are more tour. And again, this is just subjective, 00:26:22.111 --> 00:26:26.011 Brian Wringer: but maybe the Michelin Road 6 is probably more of a tour tire. 00:26:26.011 --> 00:26:30.052 Brian Wringer: It's long lasting. It's a pretty hard compound. It does grip well. 00:26:30.505 --> 00:26:31.638 Brian Wringer: Maybe you'll like it. I don't know. 00:26:32.101 --> 00:26:36.801 Brian Wringer: So something like in the Pirelli range, the Angel GT2, that's the replacement 00:26:36.801 --> 00:26:39.549 Brian Wringer: for the ST, which Robin and I are super familiar with. 00:26:40.008 --> 00:26:42.782 Brian Wringer: And it's a long life. It's a sport touring tire. 00:26:43.242 --> 00:26:48.021 Brian Wringer: There was a very interesting thing I learned at the track day last year at Road 00:26:48.021 --> 00:26:50.607 Brian Wringer: America. It rained most of the day. 00:26:51.055 --> 00:26:54.433 Brian Wringer: And one of the things that was explained to us, 00:26:54.893 --> 00:26:59.808 Brian Wringer: was that the people on their street bikes on sport touring tires actually had 00:27:00.035 --> 00:27:04.571 Brian Wringer: an advantage in the rain we had tires that would evacuate water they had a little more of, 00:27:05.031 --> 00:27:09.451 Brian Wringer: a tread pattern and also the compounds had more silica in them silica is what 00:27:09.451 --> 00:27:11.645 Brian Wringer: you need to have wet grip and cold grip, 00:27:12.109 --> 00:27:16.691 Brian Wringer: the tires this guy has they're for dry conditions only you need to get a little 00:27:16.691 --> 00:27:20.051 Brian Wringer: heat in them to really make them work the best if you want to stick around the 00:27:20.051 --> 00:27:22.841 Brian Wringer: Pirelli Angel GT2s, their new sport touring tire, 00:27:23.306 --> 00:27:25.378 Brian Wringer: might be a much better move for them. 00:27:25.844 --> 00:27:30.709 Brian Wringer: And other things like the Metzler Sportech M9RR, it's a sport touring tire. 00:27:30.709 --> 00:27:33.065 Brian Wringer: It's got silica, it's good in the wet and things like that. 00:27:33.524 --> 00:27:40.820 Brian Wringer: But it is one that's still more on the racy or sporty side of the sport touring equation. 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.971 Brian Wringer: And the thing is, these will feel a little tiny bit different, 00:27:45.435 --> 00:27:47.217 Brian Wringer: but that difference will go away. 00:27:47.670 --> 00:27:52.413 Brian Wringer: And I think it would quickly develop the confidence that he needs in the corners and so forth. 00:27:52.750 --> 00:27:58.129 Brian Wringer: The other thing is that it's going to work well in a lot more conditions than 00:27:58.129 --> 00:28:01.080 Brian Wringer: just dry, hot days in the mountains. 00:28:01.538 --> 00:28:04.349 Brian Wringer: Because there's a lot going on in the mountains. There's a lot of poop on the 00:28:04.349 --> 00:28:07.959 Brian Wringer: road, literally. There's a lot of stuff on the road. There's a lot of sudden 00:28:07.959 --> 00:28:11.180 Brian Wringer: storms. There's a lot of washouts and things like that. 00:28:11.651 --> 00:28:16.961 Brian Wringer: And honestly, maybe back down to Macho a little bit. Let's just go ahead and say it. 00:28:18.023 --> 00:28:21.739 Brian Wringer: You're not Valentino Rossi. It is still a public road. 00:28:22.203 --> 00:28:23.468 Robin Dean: Don't scare the stiffs. 00:28:23.915 --> 00:28:28.844 Brian Wringer: You can do anything that is remotely reasonable to be done on a public road, 00:28:29.297 --> 00:28:31.537 Brian Wringer: on a good sport touring tire. 00:28:31.955 --> 00:28:35.209 Robin Dean: Which means I have two pieces of news to add to this conversation. 00:28:35.209 --> 00:28:38.724 Robin Dean: First off, for those of you who live at the bottom of the road that shall not be named, 00:28:39.113 --> 00:28:44.860 Robin Dean: I would be happy to inform you that the wild cows that have been roaming randomly 00:28:45.005 --> 00:28:48.662 Robin Dean: along the road in the middle of the mountain pass, 00:28:49.121 --> 00:28:54.859 Robin Dean: they are being rounded up by their owner who after almost a half year realized 00:28:54.859 --> 00:28:58.078 Robin Dean: they were gone and has rediscovered them with his trailer 00:28:58.542 --> 00:29:03.419 Robin Dean: i learned this when i came around a sharp steep right-hander and discovered 00:29:03.419 --> 00:29:09.711 Robin Dean: a wall of noses running at me there were six or seven full-grown cows 00:29:10.174 --> 00:29:14.919 Robin Dean: hauling ass happy and i managed to talk to the guy be like hey thank you that's 00:29:14.919 --> 00:29:19.630 Robin Dean: great before then carrying on and discovering that one calf was running 00:29:20.199 --> 00:29:22.759 Robin Dean: opposite direction with somebody else following it. 00:29:23.218 --> 00:29:27.695 Brian Wringer: That's when you need an Insta360 and hopefully the AI would figure out a sea 00:29:27.695 --> 00:29:30.033 Brian Wringer: of cows would be kind of interesting. 00:29:30.422 --> 00:29:34.755 Robin Dean: That's a feature. Keep that. So then the other bit is, as we were discussing 00:29:34.755 --> 00:29:36.738 Robin Dean: this, I've been intending to do this for a long time. 00:29:37.132 --> 00:29:41.265 Robin Dean: You no longer need to visit TRO.bike and then mouse over DigiTools and click 00:29:41.265 --> 00:29:43.425 Robin Dean: on our Road Rubba Rankings page. 00:29:43.425 --> 00:29:51.645 Robin Dean: You may visit tires.tro.bike and that will take you directly to our Road rubber rankings page so 00:29:52.305 --> 00:29:56.135 Robin Dean: yes please check that out and with that again if you'd like us to field your 00:29:56.135 --> 00:30:00.965 Robin Dean: questions visit email.tro.bike in your web browser send us a message we'll see 00:30:00.965 --> 00:30:06.018 Robin Dean: what we can do with it to mangle and answer brian what are we getting into today 00:30:06.471 --> 00:30:10.625 Brian Wringer: It's mid-october officially as middle as you can get in october we're looking 00:30:10.625 --> 00:30:15.450 Brian Wringer: at pumpkins we're looking at halloween we're looking straight Straight up the arse of winter. 00:30:16.025 --> 00:30:19.408 Brian Wringer: Now, Robin has partially escaped. There's still weather there. 00:30:19.408 --> 00:30:21.284 Brian Wringer: There's still winter in the desert. 00:30:21.748 --> 00:30:23.310 Robin Dean: Technically, according to the clock, 00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:28.128 Brian Wringer: Robin has wisely escaped the Midwest for the season. 00:30:28.366 --> 00:30:30.514 Robin Dean: If you like pina coladas, 00:30:30.967 --> 00:30:34.788 Brian Wringer: There's palm trees and stuff there, right? Yeah. Thoughts, you start thinking. 00:30:35.448 --> 00:30:37.888 Brian Wringer: You think in thoughts and thoughts start thinking and they come through. 00:30:37.888 --> 00:30:40.597 Brian Wringer: But part of the yearly ritual is figuring out, 00:30:41.062 --> 00:30:44.938 Brian Wringer: what do I need to do over the winter to my motorcycles, my vehicles, 00:30:44.938 --> 00:30:51.318 Brian Wringer: my home, my life, and accumulate the parts, accumulate the resources, 00:30:51.318 --> 00:30:54.320 Brian Wringer: the time off, the funds and so forth to do all these things, 00:30:54.790 --> 00:30:59.684 Brian Wringer: and sort of kind of plan them out, partially just because all these things need to be done. 00:31:00.137 --> 00:31:06.018 Brian Wringer: But there's also an element of I need to kind of ration and drip out my motorcycle 00:31:06.018 --> 00:31:09.637 Brian Wringer: and garage time in order to keep myself sane over the winter. 00:31:09.939 --> 00:31:13.438 Brian Wringer: I need to get that little hands-on time just to get a little bit of that methadone 00:31:13.438 --> 00:31:16.946 Brian Wringer: so I feel like, yes, there's going to be life and there's going to be light at the end of this. 00:31:17.404 --> 00:31:20.508 Brian Wringer: You know, I'm going to wake up in March. There's going to be an orb in the sky 00:31:20.508 --> 00:31:24.713 Brian Wringer: that's unfamiliar and it's going to have unfamiliar feelings. It's going to feel warm. 00:31:25.177 --> 00:31:27.581 Brian Wringer: It's going to happen. It's coming. Have faith. 00:31:28.028 --> 00:31:29.374 Robin Dean: The doldrums, as it were. 00:31:29.827 --> 00:31:33.206 Brian Wringer: The doldrums. Sad. Seasonal affective disorder. 00:31:33.664 --> 00:31:38.298 Brian Wringer: Your version of winter is quite different, although there's still things to 00:31:38.298 --> 00:31:41.495 Brian Wringer: be done. There's still things to be handled, planning to be done. 00:31:41.942 --> 00:31:45.578 Robin Dean: I remember us discussing in a previous episode, there are times when you actually 00:31:45.578 --> 00:31:49.425 Robin Dean: may tell yourself, I need to not ride for a while, which is a strange... 00:31:49.895 --> 00:31:53.944 Robin Dean: Thing to think, but there are times it's like, you know, I know it's there, 00:31:54.304 --> 00:31:56.048 Robin Dean: but there are certain things where that 00:31:56.513 --> 00:32:01.598 Robin Dean: space is of benefit, whether it's subject matter outside of motorcycling, 00:32:02.010 --> 00:32:04.834 Robin Dean: or if it's just dealing with the bike itself and sitting on your butt and having 00:32:04.834 --> 00:32:09.079 Robin Dean: some Zen time, a personal connection to the bike on the wrenching level. 00:32:09.422 --> 00:32:15.076 Robin Dean: I tend to come up with little lists pre-winter. I know I have got it now. 00:32:15.540 --> 00:32:20.094 Robin Dean: I plan to peel Maggie's bike apart here and there, add some electrics, 00:32:20.094 --> 00:32:28.604 Robin Dean: add a phone charger mount, some luggage structure, just stuff that will be helpful in a tour. 00:32:29.490 --> 00:32:36.004 Robin Dean: There's an auxiliary power block that I've become a big fan of that really solves 00:32:36.004 --> 00:32:40.142 Robin Dean: a lot of problems with just routing power directly to any gadgets that, 00:32:40.589 --> 00:32:41.808 Robin Dean: if you have a CAN bus system, 00:32:42.272 --> 00:32:46.202 Robin Dean: you can just bypass all of that yourself, go direct to battery. 00:32:46.666 --> 00:32:50.649 Robin Dean: The bike's going to get one of those. A phone charger. The phone mount's already there. 00:32:51.113 --> 00:32:56.065 Robin Dean: Maybe a heated gear. I've got these really great cheap heated grips that are over grips. 00:32:56.529 --> 00:33:00.624 Robin Dean: Little things, just stuff like that. And for my own bike, there's some fine 00:33:00.624 --> 00:33:06.617 Robin Dean: tuning I want to do with, like I said, I'm getting that Android Auto screen. 00:33:07.081 --> 00:33:08.834 Brian Wringer: They'll keep you occupied for a while. Yeah. 00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:12.494 Robin Dean: It's got good features. So I need to learn it. I need to install it. 00:33:12.494 --> 00:33:14.053 Robin Dean: It will be powered by my power block. 00:33:14.477 --> 00:33:20.485 Robin Dean: The old Fobo TPMS is coming off my bike to go onto Maggie's bike. So she has TPMS as well. 00:33:20.944 --> 00:33:25.604 Robin Dean: Mine comes with pre-paired units and all these things need to be connected. 00:33:25.604 --> 00:33:29.214 Robin Dean: So I'm going to get all that situated and then I have to develop computer scripts 00:33:29.214 --> 00:33:32.594 Robin Dean: that will actually extract the videos. It has a loop video function. 00:33:33.047 --> 00:33:38.654 Robin Dean: So while I'm riding, when the road gets good, I simply hit keep and all of that 00:33:38.654 --> 00:33:41.650 Robin Dean: will be saved to the device on a 64 gigabyte card. 00:33:42.120 --> 00:33:46.016 Robin Dean: It has a Wi-Fi connection where I'll be able to extract that data and then stitch 00:33:46.016 --> 00:33:48.099 Robin Dean: it all together for tour footage. 00:33:48.558 --> 00:33:51.478 Robin Dean: Two cameras, front and rear. Life's good. Those are my plans. 00:33:51.937 --> 00:33:52.540 Brian Wringer: Nice. 00:33:53.004 --> 00:33:54.223 Robin Dean: Even now, I'm ready. 00:33:54.675 --> 00:33:55.686 Brian Wringer: Yeah, you got it planned. 00:33:56.144 --> 00:33:59.703 Robin Dean: You're going to dismantle your entire bike and build it into like a R9. 00:34:01.013 --> 00:34:07.933 Brian Wringer: That's kind of the plan. The plan here is to basically upgrade the brakes on the FJ09. 00:34:08.391 --> 00:34:11.834 Brian Wringer: I think there's like 9 or 10 or 12 brake lines. 00:34:12.292 --> 00:34:16.077 Brian Wringer: It's really complicated. I've got a set of stainless steel brake lines. 00:34:16.501 --> 00:34:22.294 Brian Wringer: Bought them from sportbiketrackgear.com. Not a sponsor. Call us. A set of Spiegler lines. 00:34:22.765 --> 00:34:26.319 Brian Wringer: And I've installed Spiegler lines. They're made in Ohio. They are extremely 00:34:26.319 --> 00:34:27.879 Brian Wringer: high quality. They're always great. 00:34:28.349 --> 00:34:34.569 Brian Wringer: So I've got that set in hand. I've got a set of very low mileage takeoff brake 00:34:34.569 --> 00:34:39.088 Brian Wringer: rotors because I measured my rotors and at 65,000 miles, 00:34:39.553 --> 00:34:43.483 Brian Wringer: 45,000 miles of that was me. So I know how I do. 00:34:43.906 --> 00:34:47.579 Brian Wringer: The front rotors are pretty close to their minimum spec for thickness. 00:34:47.579 --> 00:34:53.109 Brian Wringer: So I've got a set that are right at the factory thickness and those are going 00:34:53.109 --> 00:34:55.169 Brian Wringer: to go on, bleed everything and all that stuff. 00:34:55.169 --> 00:34:58.949 Brian Wringer: So the problem is it's an ABS bike. And like most ABS bikes, 00:34:58.949 --> 00:35:03.469 Brian Wringer: you have a lot of different brake lines and you need to pretty much disassemble 00:35:03.469 --> 00:35:05.175 Brian Wringer: the bike to get to the ABS unit. 00:35:05.645 --> 00:35:08.369 Brian Wringer: So, yeah, it's going to be a big job. It's going to be probably a couple of 00:35:08.369 --> 00:35:12.530 Brian Wringer: weeks of me picking away at it in between all the other junk I have to do. 00:35:12.959 --> 00:35:15.896 Brian Wringer: I'm kind of saving that for when the garage is warm enough to work. 00:35:16.349 --> 00:35:20.661 Robin Dean: But that gets into the real question the hardcore question that you've got here 00:35:21.121 --> 00:35:24.029 Robin Dean: like now we already knew what we were going to start getting into we kind of 00:35:24.029 --> 00:35:28.549 Robin Dean: knew where what our paces were going to be you've got some amazing content here 00:35:28.549 --> 00:35:35.929 Robin Dean: about what spiritual core philosophy amounted amounts to our decision what can wait 00:35:36.388 --> 00:35:38.263 Robin Dean: what needs to happen immediately 00:35:38.727 --> 00:35:44.474 Robin Dean: what can wait till winter and what feels great to place into winter. 00:35:44.927 --> 00:35:45.187 Brian Wringer: Yeah. 00:35:45.328 --> 00:35:46.315 Robin Dean: What's your take on all this? 00:35:46.773 --> 00:35:52.049 Brian Wringer: With the brake upgrades, I hate to admit it, the inspector to track day at Putnam 00:35:52.049 --> 00:35:57.250 Brian Wringer: Park was kind of a dick about it, but he did have a point. My brakes were not optimal. But, 00:35:57.825 --> 00:36:01.615 Brian Wringer: Did the track day. It was no problem. At least three other really intense, 00:36:01.615 --> 00:36:04.605 Brian Wringer: great rides and things like that. So it wasn't one of those things that was 00:36:04.605 --> 00:36:05.673 Brian Wringer: like an immediate problem. 00:36:06.062 --> 00:36:09.205 Brian Wringer: It's like, you know, I need to do this. I need to take care of this. 00:36:09.205 --> 00:36:13.715 Brian Wringer: I need to handle this. So he didn't like tell me anything I didn't know other 00:36:13.715 --> 00:36:16.911 Brian Wringer: than the stuff he kind of made up. Like he told me the pads are almost gone and they weren't. 00:36:17.376 --> 00:36:21.370 Brian Wringer: So that kind of thing, like, yeah, you're just making a little list and checking it twice. 00:36:21.834 --> 00:36:26.228 Brian Wringer: So that's been in my head for several months and so everything's accumulated, 00:36:26.687 --> 00:36:30.375 Brian Wringer: everything's ready to go when i feel the time is right when i'm like yeah i'm 00:36:30.375 --> 00:36:34.215 Brian Wringer: jones and i need to get out and get dirty and get some stuff in there and the other thing is 00:36:34.655 --> 00:36:38.355 Brian Wringer: it's kind of almost the same category is i'm not having any problems at all 00:36:38.355 --> 00:36:43.736 Brian Wringer: there's no indication of anything doing anything but i know i need to take the swing arm out. 00:36:44.201 --> 00:36:49.875 Brian Wringer: And grease all the bearings so the question there is do i buy all the bearings 00:36:49.875 --> 00:36:52.395 Brian Wringer: from Yamaha and just replace them? 00:36:52.395 --> 00:36:55.689 Brian Wringer: Or do I kind of trust, okay, nothing's happening. Nothing's clunking. 00:36:56.088 --> 00:36:59.365 Brian Wringer: They're probably okay. I can probably just take everything apart, 00:36:59.365 --> 00:37:02.096 Brian Wringer: clean it, grease it up and slap it back together. 00:37:02.555 --> 00:37:06.566 Brian Wringer: So I'm kind of making that debate. I need to check the pricing on everything. Yeah. 00:37:06.943 --> 00:37:10.495 Brian Wringer: If it's like 50 or a hundred bucks worth of stuff, I probably will just get 00:37:10.495 --> 00:37:11.698 Brian Wringer: all the bearings and do it. 00:37:12.150 --> 00:37:17.935 Brian Wringer: If it gets into serious money, like tire money, that starts cutting into the 00:37:17.935 --> 00:37:19.430 Brian Wringer: tire budget. I may rethink that. 00:37:19.894 --> 00:37:24.800 Brian Wringer: And again, that's something 65,000 miles of wind and rain and riding, 00:37:25.258 --> 00:37:29.520 Brian Wringer: you know, they're getting a little funky in there. And it's not something that 00:37:29.520 --> 00:37:31.812 Brian Wringer: has a fixed interval, but you got to do it. 00:37:32.189 --> 00:37:34.273 Brian Wringer: I've seen what happens when you don't and it's not pretty. 00:37:34.720 --> 00:37:38.279 Brian Wringer: The other big thing, and again, this is something that's not necessary at all, 00:37:38.743 --> 00:37:41.733 Brian Wringer: but I'm really thinking about swapping the engine in my GS850. 00:37:42.185 --> 00:37:47.166 Brian Wringer: Because, A, I've got two whole engines under my workbench and a bottom end. 00:37:47.625 --> 00:37:52.872 Brian Wringer: You have to accumulate parts when you have old bikes basically when the bike is idling, 00:37:53.337 --> 00:37:57.170 Brian Wringer: you can hear this it's just a god-awful metallic clanking noise and it's because 00:37:57.170 --> 00:38:02.635 Brian Wringer: the camshafts kind of slide back and forth and there's a little too much clearance and it makes this, 00:38:03.105 --> 00:38:07.800 Brian Wringer: really awful noise it is completely harmless it's not hurting anything it can 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:09.404 Brian Wringer: make that noise till the end of time. 00:38:09.857 --> 00:38:10.443 Robin Dean: It's a diesel 00:38:10.890 --> 00:38:14.420 Brian Wringer: It's just it's just a noise it's going to make so the reason for that is there's 00:38:14.420 --> 00:38:17.891 Brian Wringer: an early engine in my later model bike. It's called cam walk, 00:38:18.344 --> 00:38:22.960 Brian Wringer: where the cams walk back and forth as they go around and the spring pressures 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:23.876 Brian Wringer: are different and all that. 00:38:24.323 --> 00:38:27.750 Brian Wringer: So that's like, am I really ever going to get that board where I just like, 00:38:27.750 --> 00:38:31.701 Brian Wringer: you know, I'm going to yank this engine out. And again, this is a vintage motorcycle. 00:38:32.084 --> 00:38:35.180 Brian Wringer: It's one of the heaviest engines on any motorcycle on the planet. 00:38:35.180 --> 00:38:37.990 Robin Dean: And it's a Suzuki engine too. So it's like a block of cheese. 00:38:37.990 --> 00:38:40.540 Robin Dean: Every time you park the bike, it's a different bike the next morning. 00:38:40.540 --> 00:38:43.636 Robin Dean: So everything's all shifty and melty and soft 00:38:44.077 --> 00:38:48.610 Brian Wringer: Yeah it's not a minor project but it's one i've done before i don't know how 00:38:48.610 --> 00:38:52.754 Brian Wringer: many times two or three at least yeah and i've done it by myself i've done it with help. 00:38:53.213 --> 00:38:58.760 Robin Dean: Well that's that's there's a big difference there so anything that is ornate 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:03.064 Robin Dean: or complicated you've seen the origami that goes into taking my plastics off just stuff like that 00:39:03.528 --> 00:39:08.640 Robin Dean: anything that is as severe as when And you and I did something that nobody had 00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:10.756 Robin Dean: really documented. The valve check. 00:39:11.220 --> 00:39:13.362 Brian Wringer: The valve check, check, check, check. 00:39:13.830 --> 00:39:18.502 Robin Dean: Well, we also replaced every shim. I feel like that is a great, 00:39:18.502 --> 00:39:21.198 Robin Dean: holy crap, we're going to have a lot of cold weather 00:39:21.662 --> 00:39:27.809 Robin Dean: start thing where you've got your insulated coveralls and a kerosene heater, 00:39:28.099 --> 00:39:31.042 Robin Dean: or in my case, a fire pit going outside. 00:39:31.042 --> 00:39:36.993 Robin Dean: You got the fire pit going, you've got light, and you're able to just sit down. 00:39:37.452 --> 00:39:41.092 Robin Dean: You've got enough time where it's part of your off time. You know, 00:39:41.092 --> 00:39:42.965 Robin Dean: maybe you've got some whiskey to keep you warm. 00:39:43.424 --> 00:39:45.666 Robin Dean: You've got a chalkboard to document things on. 00:39:45.805 --> 00:39:46.014 Brian Wringer: Yeah. 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.162 Robin Dean: I don't know what I'm talking about here, but the point is you sit your butt 00:39:49.162 --> 00:39:54.122 Robin Dean: down or in Brian's case, you raise the bike up on a lift and you grab the Torx 00:39:54.122 --> 00:39:56.275 Robin Dean: bit and attach it to the wrench. 00:39:56.739 --> 00:40:00.632 Robin Dean: And then you wait another 10 minutes. And then you look at your first bolt and 00:40:00.632 --> 00:40:03.891 Robin Dean: you turn it a quarter turn counterclockwise. 00:40:04.356 --> 00:40:07.152 Robin Dean: And then you wait for three minutes and then you give it another quarter. 00:40:07.152 --> 00:40:13.832 Robin Dean: You know, you've got so much breathing room and all of the opportunity for Zen 00:40:13.832 --> 00:40:19.344 Robin Dean: enlightenment, where so long as you keep everything orderly, you're going to be okay. 00:40:19.797 --> 00:40:23.082 Robin Dean: You may arrive at an, oh, this is going to require two people. 00:40:24.262 --> 00:40:27.130 Robin Dean: Well, don't worry. If you live anywhere where there's a big winter, 00:40:27.479 --> 00:40:30.682 Robin Dean: you've got, well, eight months of winter. 00:40:31.148 --> 00:40:34.560 Brian Wringer: It's not quite eight months here, you know, but yeah. I see your point. Yes. 00:40:35.013 --> 00:40:37.886 Robin Dean: You've got the doldrum time, the darkness factor to just be like, 00:40:37.886 --> 00:40:41.903 Robin Dean: hey, you want to stare and watch the freaking wallpaper peel off the garage? 00:40:42.345 --> 00:40:47.714 Robin Dean: Hold this for a second. Here's a sandwich and here's a beer. Enjoy the piece of it. 00:40:48.149 --> 00:40:48.445 Brian Wringer: Yeah. 00:40:48.943 --> 00:40:54.847 Robin Dean: You may get fed up with that piece, but it really is a time and place for the, 00:40:55.312 --> 00:40:57.552 Robin Dean: I'm not sure how to do that. 00:40:58.005 --> 00:41:01.476 Robin Dean: I'm going to do that. Because you can find the documentation, 00:41:01.476 --> 00:41:04.246 Robin Dean: you can get the support, which gets into committees and things, 00:41:04.246 --> 00:41:05.679 Robin Dean: which is one of those articles I'm going to write. 00:41:06.144 --> 00:41:10.033 Robin Dean: When is the committee helping? And when is the committee helping with air quotes? 00:41:10.445 --> 00:41:12.419 Robin Dean: There are two different variations of that situation. 00:41:12.872 --> 00:41:16.846 Brian Wringer: How do you express that yeah that's a great point we once made like a whole 00:41:16.846 --> 00:41:20.523 Brian Wringer: weekend out of it where a friend of mine came down and we installed a big bore kit, 00:41:20.981 --> 00:41:25.643 Brian Wringer: in his klr 650 oh wow because i'd done it before and, 00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:29.946 Brian Wringer: yeah it's not the most complicated project in the world but also you know it 00:41:29.946 --> 00:41:33.906 Brian Wringer: wasn't like he needed my help but it was a it was an excuse for us to get together 00:41:33.906 --> 00:41:36.097 Brian Wringer: hang out have some garage time, 00:41:36.556 --> 00:41:39.621 Brian Wringer: and my garage is not heated but it's it's next to the house, 00:41:40.085 --> 00:41:43.934 Brian Wringer: down to somewhere below freezing can actually be fairly comfortable out there, 00:41:44.399 --> 00:41:47.677 Brian Wringer: so yeah it came down we started on saturday morning, 00:41:48.130 --> 00:41:51.938 Brian Wringer: we unloaded on friday got everything set up we took off a few plastics and then, 00:41:52.391 --> 00:41:56.176 Brian Wringer: spent most of saturday just taking our time having a good time putting this 00:41:56.176 --> 00:42:01.847 Brian Wringer: kit in and had it had it running that afternoon and you know so stuff like that's great, 00:42:02.306 --> 00:42:05.856 Brian Wringer: you know and there's also just life stuff like i know a lot of people personally 00:42:05.856 --> 00:42:10.340 Brian Wringer: who have put off major surgery major medical care, 00:42:10.961 --> 00:42:14.740 Brian Wringer: They're limping around or they can't pee or what, you know, because they're 00:42:14.740 --> 00:42:19.808 Brian Wringer: putting it off until November and then they can recover and be back at it in March. 00:42:20.237 --> 00:42:23.082 Robin Dean: They're still active. They want to keep on doing stuff. 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:24.736 Brian Wringer: I've seen that happen many times. 00:42:25.195 --> 00:42:29.699 Robin Dean: So in your case, it is a full teardown of your bike. 00:42:30.152 --> 00:42:33.860 Brian Wringer: Yeah, it's going to be naked. It'll be good. And it'll, I'll see, 00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:38.070 Brian Wringer: I'll see parts of my bike that I've never seen. So that is happening definitely. 00:42:38.070 --> 00:42:40.102 Brian Wringer: And the rest of it is a little optional. 00:42:40.508 --> 00:42:42.343 Brian Wringer: Although I may get really bored. I don't know. 00:42:42.790 --> 00:42:45.150 Brian Wringer: Plus there's kind of a whole case. So I don't know what other people are going 00:42:45.150 --> 00:42:47.293 Brian Wringer: to come up with or ask about. So that's always fun. 00:42:47.740 --> 00:42:50.114 Brian Wringer: I always get a lot of texts. That's kind of fun too. 00:42:50.567 --> 00:42:54.740 Robin Dean: That just inspires me to tell everybody as the season gets colder, 00:42:54.740 --> 00:42:58.030 Robin Dean: and I'm sorry if I'm rubbing it in your faces, but as things are starting to 00:42:58.030 --> 00:43:01.110 Robin Dean: chill out up north, I wish y'all well. 00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:04.749 Robin Dean: I hope you guys find some nice, pleasant winter projects that are going to make 00:43:05.022 --> 00:43:08.092 Robin Dean: the 27 writing season that much more awesome. 00:43:08.557 --> 00:43:13.073 Robin Dean: That means that winter's going to hit, and it means Brian and I will be recording 00:43:13.532 --> 00:43:17.584 Robin Dean: on the regular. We'll have all kinds of inspired topics of random subject matter. 00:43:18.048 --> 00:43:21.530 Robin Dean: We hope you'll listen in. That said, we are, yeah, of course, 00:43:21.530 --> 00:43:22.942 Robin Dean: still looking for more sponsors. 00:43:23.214 --> 00:43:23.394 Brian Wringer: Yeah. 00:43:23.499 --> 00:43:26.239 Robin Dean: And if you just want to give us your money and you're a fan, 00:43:26.366 --> 00:43:31.428 Robin Dean: go to donate.tro.bike, and we will spend it on, quite frankly, bills. 00:43:31.887 --> 00:43:35.320 Brian Wringer: Yeah, the podcast is part of what keeps us sane, and we hope it keeps other 00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.422 Brian Wringer: people sane, too, over the winter anyway. 00:43:37.869 --> 00:43:43.620 Robin Dean: Time for The Armory with Joanne Don, brought to you by GearChick.com. 00:43:43.620 --> 00:43:45.613 Robin Dean: That's G-E-A-R-C-H-I-C. 00:44:00.037 --> 00:44:01.851 Robin Dean: What are we talking about this round? 00:44:02.314 --> 00:44:07.066 Joanne Donn: The first topic question is, what's a purchase you've talked a rider out of, 00:44:07.066 --> 00:44:09.432 Joanne Donn: even though they arrived convinced it was perfect? 00:44:09.891 --> 00:44:16.356 Joanne Donn: Many things, helmets, jackets, boots, gloves, I have talked people out of. 00:44:16.810 --> 00:44:22.179 Joanne Donn: Because what tends to happen is, when you're faced with 40 options, 00:44:22.637 --> 00:44:26.214 Joanne Donn: let's say you go to rizzle.com, motorcyclegear.com, and there's 10 jackets, 00:44:26.673 --> 00:44:30.648 Joanne Donn: It is up to you to determine which is best. 00:44:31.102 --> 00:44:36.802 Joanne Donn: So what do you do? You might read the description, go to YouTube for reviews. 00:44:37.255 --> 00:44:39.734 Joanne Donn: Okay, read the technical details. 00:44:40.198 --> 00:44:46.404 Joanne Donn: And you put together some requirements or qualifications that for you... 00:44:47.303 --> 00:44:53.003 Joanne Donn: Oh, it's the color I like. It's the budget I want. I like this color here. I like the pockets. 00:44:53.311 --> 00:44:58.199 Joanne Donn: It matches my whatever it is. And those are all very valid reasons to pick something, 00:44:58.373 --> 00:45:00.235 Joanne Donn: right? It's your money. You buy what you want. 00:45:00.700 --> 00:45:06.042 Joanne Donn: However, when you talk to a professional or someone who's trained in these products 00:45:06.042 --> 00:45:12.852 Joanne Donn: and has more knowledge and experience in the shopping and selection and understands 00:45:12.852 --> 00:45:15.491 Joanne Donn: the products in great depth and detail, 00:45:15.949 --> 00:45:20.436 Joanne Donn: you will always change your mind about something, maybe not all of it. 00:45:20.808 --> 00:45:25.249 Joanne Donn: Sometimes I would change someone's mind about, oh, this jacket over that one. 00:45:25.713 --> 00:45:27.922 Joanne Donn: But I definitely have had customers 00:45:27.922 --> 00:45:30.735 Joanne Donn: where I've completely changed their outfits from what they thought. 00:45:31.036 --> 00:45:35.576 Joanne Donn: I had a guy bring me like printouts, like 20 pages of printouts. 00:45:36.029 --> 00:45:39.832 Joanne Donn: I looked at it and I said, well, it looks like you've read on some things, 00:45:39.832 --> 00:45:42.699 Joanne Donn: which is great, but let's just start over. 00:45:43.151 --> 00:45:48.300 Joanne Donn: So let's just not read. Let's just go touch some things and try some stuff on. 00:45:48.753 --> 00:45:55.214 Joanne Donn: And I was able to figure out who he really is as a rider, what his needs are, 00:45:55.650 --> 00:46:00.048 Joanne Donn: what he really wants, and other things that he hadn't been thinking about. 00:46:00.478 --> 00:46:05.852 Joanne Donn: What a lot of people don't also understand is the nuance between the type of 00:46:05.852 --> 00:46:08.396 Joanne Donn: motorcycle you ride and the fit of the garment. 00:46:08.837 --> 00:46:15.002 Joanne Donn: If you ride a Ducati 848 Evo, you literally cannot wear certain gear because 00:46:15.002 --> 00:46:16.587 Joanne Donn: it won't fit you correctly. 00:46:17.701 --> 00:46:20.935 Joanne Donn: It'll fit you on the runway. It'll fit you in the dressing room, 00:46:21.196 --> 00:46:25.753 Joanne Donn: but it will not fit once you throw your leg over that 848 Evo, bend forward, 00:46:26.206 --> 00:46:32.602 Joanne Donn: hike your knees up into your chest and try to ride for 40 minutes or six hours 00:46:32.602 --> 00:46:36.765 Joanne Donn: like my friend did when she rode from Pennsylvania to Indy. 00:46:37.235 --> 00:46:41.812 Joanne Donn: Things like that, they don't think about it because it's not their job to really 00:46:41.812 --> 00:46:43.087 Joanne Donn: know every single thing. 00:46:43.534 --> 00:46:48.207 Joanne Donn: And so once they also see more physical choices... 00:46:48.678 --> 00:46:51.831 Joanne Donn: Think of anything you buy, like you want a new coffee maker, 00:46:51.831 --> 00:46:57.436 Joanne Donn: you want a new washing machine or a new lawnmower, whatever it is, new tools. 00:46:57.901 --> 00:47:03.391 Joanne Donn: You want to see it in person, don't you? Especially if it's your thing. 00:47:03.391 --> 00:47:07.491 Joanne Donn: You know, if you're into knives, like some people, you want to touch it. 00:47:07.491 --> 00:47:10.341 Joanne Donn: You want to feel it. You want to see like what's it made out of? 00:47:10.341 --> 00:47:14.371 Joanne Donn: Like you want it in your hands because that's going to change your mind or just 00:47:14.371 --> 00:47:18.851 Joanne Donn: give you different ideas, right? It's going to change your opinion and your impressions. 00:47:19.310 --> 00:47:23.414 Joanne Donn: And with gear, it's even harder because it has to fit your body, 00:47:23.872 --> 00:47:27.011 Joanne Donn: right? It's not like a coffee pot that you're just picking up off the stove. 00:47:27.011 --> 00:47:29.706 Joanne Donn: Like it's a whole process. I've. 00:47:30.257 --> 00:47:34.059 Joanne Donn: Definitely told people not to buy that. 00:47:34.518 --> 00:47:40.272 Joanne Donn: But I've also had customers who buy it anyway, because a salesperson should 00:47:40.272 --> 00:47:41.553 Joanne Donn: never say, you can't buy that. 00:47:42.018 --> 00:47:46.406 Joanne Donn: That's a dumb idea. You're an idiot. You should never even think about that. 00:47:46.859 --> 00:47:51.762 Joanne Donn: That's not sales. That's just being an asshole. My approach was always like, 00:47:51.762 --> 00:47:57.722 Joanne Donn: hey, I love that you love the way this matches the rest of your outfit. 00:47:57.722 --> 00:48:02.602 Joanne Donn: I remember a guy who came in and he wanted a red, white, and blue theme to match 00:48:02.602 --> 00:48:05.596 Joanne Donn: his bike, shoes, pants, everything. 00:48:05.904 --> 00:48:07.756 Joanne Donn: And actually he looked really good. 00:48:08.191 --> 00:48:14.152 Joanne Donn: However, it didn't really fit the best on his motorcycle because of the riding 00:48:14.152 --> 00:48:16.272 Joanne Donn: position and the fit of the garment. 00:48:16.713 --> 00:48:22.402 Joanne Donn: But what I told him was, hey, I just want you to know these things. 00:48:22.698 --> 00:48:29.310 Joanne Donn: This is what I see when you sit on your motorcycle to ride and show off that awesome outfit 00:48:29.774 --> 00:48:35.782 Joanne Donn: that 20 minutes later, your knees might hurt because you're forcing the seams 00:48:35.782 --> 00:48:38.406 Joanne Donn: in a position that they weren't meant to go. 00:48:38.847 --> 00:48:43.702 Joanne Donn: And you're gonna feel this uncomfortable gathering behind your knees because 00:48:43.702 --> 00:48:45.958 Joanne Donn: they're bent too much for this jean. 00:48:46.423 --> 00:48:52.742 Joanne Donn: I just want you to know what to expect because this outfit is like 60% right 00:48:53.207 --> 00:48:56.719 Joanne Donn: for your riding lifestyle. I just want you to know these things. 00:48:57.177 --> 00:48:59.058 Joanne Donn: I'm going to let you figure that out. 00:48:59.499 --> 00:49:03.690 Robin Dean: Customers like, what are they made of? Oh, it says here chain mail. That's not good. Okay. 00:49:04.232 --> 00:49:11.337 Joanne Donn: Just giving them the information, even if I wholeheartedly disagree about the, 00:49:11.802 --> 00:49:14.361 Joanne Donn: you know, what they're buying. It's not my outfit. 00:49:14.472 --> 00:49:16.608 Joanne Donn: It's not my motorcycle. It's not my money. 00:49:17.073 --> 00:49:21.977 Joanne Donn: So my job is to throw out all the things that you haven't thought about that 00:49:21.977 --> 00:49:26.847 Joanne Donn: may get in your way later or make you uncomfortable or make you regret your 00:49:26.847 --> 00:49:30.058 Joanne Donn: purchase so that you can go, you know what? 00:49:30.487 --> 00:49:36.577 Joanne Donn: It's fine. I'm going to deal with that. or buying a helmet strictly for aesthetics. 00:49:36.577 --> 00:49:39.328 Joanne Donn: I'm going to wear it for 10 minutes to the meet and back. 00:49:39.515 --> 00:49:43.503 Joanne Donn: I already have a showy, whatever. I've got a, you know, touring helmet for the long rides. 00:49:43.950 --> 00:49:49.296 Joanne Donn: So understanding those nuances, and that's for me, get to know you. 00:49:49.430 --> 00:49:52.882 Joanne Donn: Like, oh, hey, Brian, where are you from? What's going on? Why are you shopping? 00:49:53.125 --> 00:49:56.336 Joanne Donn: You know, are you going somewhere? Did you buy something? 00:49:56.684 --> 00:50:03.197 Joanne Donn: To give them like a holistic approach or idea to what they should buy and why. 00:50:03.638 --> 00:50:07.748 Joanne Donn: It goes like both ways. Just depends on the person because we're all different. 00:50:08.213 --> 00:50:12.317 Joanne Donn: We all like different things. So stop telling other people they suck. 00:50:12.770 --> 00:50:16.792 Joanne Donn: Stop gatekeeping other people from doing things. 00:50:17.106 --> 00:50:18.934 Brian Wringer: Joanne's rule, don't be an asshole. 00:50:19.161 --> 00:50:25.186 Joanne Donn: Don't be an asshole. It all rolls up into the same idea as riding different 00:50:25.366 --> 00:50:26.806 Joanne Donn: motorcycles in general. 00:50:27.253 --> 00:50:32.106 Joanne Donn: Hey, are you sure you want a Ducati 848 Evo to commute an hour? Okay. 00:50:32.627 --> 00:50:35.983 Joanne Donn: You love it. You're going to suffer. Have a great time. 00:50:36.441 --> 00:50:40.860 Joanne Donn: I hope you enjoy it. I hope you have the abs to support it because you can't 00:50:40.860 --> 00:50:45.317 Joanne Donn: ride that bike without a strong back or good abs to support your core. 00:50:45.787 --> 00:50:47.767 Joanne Donn: Yes, I hope that answers that question. 00:50:48.230 --> 00:50:52.282 Robin Dean: What's a piece of gear, feature, or buying habit you've changed your mind about? 00:50:52.653 --> 00:50:56.070 Robin Dean: Like maybe something disappointed you after long use or something you missed 00:50:56.070 --> 00:50:57.170 Robin Dean: eventually won you over. 00:50:57.530 --> 00:51:01.581 Robin Dean: What changed your opinion and what would you tell your past self? 00:51:02.034 --> 00:51:10.630 Joanne Donn: I went from Sina to Cardo, made the jump years ago, but I had been with them since their first unit. 00:51:10.630 --> 00:51:17.081 Joanne Donn: I sold their first units back in 2007 or 2006 after... 00:51:17.551 --> 00:51:21.800 Joanne Donn: We were using walkie-talkies with push buttons on the handlebar, 00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:24.151 Joanne Donn: basic Sina Bluetooth headsets. 00:51:24.621 --> 00:51:29.225 Joanne Donn: At least at our store, they were the new hot thing. 00:51:29.683 --> 00:51:32.740 Joanne Donn: Because Cardo back then wasn't as competitive. Their products were good, 00:51:32.740 --> 00:51:34.002 Joanne Donn: but they just were different. 00:51:34.461 --> 00:51:38.054 Joanne Donn: And what Sina was offering was much easier to use. 00:51:38.409 --> 00:51:43.018 Joanne Donn: That's eight or ten years ago was when I switched completely to Cardo. 00:51:43.424 --> 00:51:47.340 Joanne Donn: Because they had completely changed their lineup and came out with completely 00:51:47.340 --> 00:51:49.000 Joanne Donn: new products that worked way 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:54.020 Joanne Donn: better and like just aesthetically fit what I wanted on my sporty helmet. 00:51:54.020 --> 00:51:59.318 Joanne Donn: I didn't want a giant knob and a giant thing on the side of my awesome helmet. 00:51:59.649 --> 00:52:03.070 Joanne Donn: These days, I have different helmets and different requirements, 00:52:03.070 --> 00:52:08.590 Joanne Donn: but back then I wanted to streamline unit and they were the ones redesigning 00:52:08.590 --> 00:52:12.510 Joanne Donn: and engineering new products that sounded better too. 00:52:12.510 --> 00:52:17.870 Joanne Donn: So just, you know, when brands really like and take the time to invest in research 00:52:17.870 --> 00:52:21.323 Joanne Donn: and development and design to, you know, create new products, 00:52:21.789 --> 00:52:23.478 Joanne Donn: people will always switch over. 00:52:23.896 --> 00:52:28.545 Joanne Donn: But that's like probably the biggest switch I made. I don't recommend Cina anymore. 00:52:29.003 --> 00:52:29.730 Robin Dean: I love my Cina. 00:52:30.177 --> 00:52:31.041 Joanne Donn: They're a good product. 00:52:31.505 --> 00:52:35.837 Robin Dean: Somebody called TRO asking about how do I operate my U-Clear. 00:52:36.294 --> 00:52:36.969 Joanne Donn: Oh, my God. 00:52:37.421 --> 00:52:40.318 Robin Dean: First off, we don't recommend you buy that product. Go to the toilet. 00:52:40.777 --> 00:52:44.983 Joanne Donn: You open the drawer. you put it there for later and then you close it. 00:52:45.442 --> 00:52:50.800 Joanne Donn: When people are like, oh, I've never had a headset. My go-to is Cardo because 00:52:51.219 --> 00:52:54.033 Joanne Donn: I've used a lot of their headsets. I know how they work. 00:52:54.451 --> 00:52:58.480 Joanne Donn: I've been using headsets for 20 years. Different Bluetooth. 00:52:58.939 --> 00:53:00.332 Robin Dean: Yeah, you can play it like a piano. 00:53:00.790 --> 00:53:06.751 Joanne Donn: Yeah, and I love it. So much so that I have given up my aesthetic requirement. 00:53:07.205 --> 00:53:11.419 Joanne Donn: Because years ago, when I started buying Bluetooth, my requirement was it's 00:53:11.419 --> 00:53:17.241 Joanne Donn: got to be smaller so it's not as loud because you can hear the wind noise from your unit mounted. 00:53:17.699 --> 00:53:21.932 Robin Dean: So is this like a 1984 Run DMC Sony boombox with the detachable speakers? 00:53:22.396 --> 00:53:26.489 Joanne Donn: Not that big. But, you know, you've heard your headset. Which one do you have? 00:53:26.489 --> 00:53:27.987 Joanne Donn: Do you have a 50 or like a 30? 00:53:28.137 --> 00:53:29.885 Robin Dean: Oh, no, no, no. I'm running an SMH-10. 00:53:30.030 --> 00:53:33.333 Joanne Donn: Oh, my God. You know, that's like Bluetooth 3, right? 00:53:33.484 --> 00:53:39.829 Robin Dean: How will I ever survive, Joe? Yeah, no, it's still doing a great job and you could still get them. 00:53:39.829 --> 00:53:44.621 Joanne Donn: As long as it works. That's because they don't retire products in their product line. 00:53:45.997 --> 00:53:51.129 Joanne Donn: What I noticed was I could hear wind noise, the turbulence on the left side 00:53:51.129 --> 00:53:52.586 Joanne Donn: of my helmet, and I didn't like it. 00:53:53.045 --> 00:53:56.620 Joanne Donn: That's when I switched because they made a low profile SMH-10R. 00:53:56.847 --> 00:54:00.979 Joanne Donn: I still have a video on YouTube that has like 15,000 views of showing people 00:54:01.299 --> 00:54:04.591 Joanne Donn: how to install it. And then another video showing people how to pair it. 00:54:05.038 --> 00:54:08.271 Joanne Donn: Pro tip, every kind of Bluetooth device all pairs the same way. 00:54:08.724 --> 00:54:13.257 Joanne Donn: But I changed my requirement of it's got to be low profile. 00:54:13.420 --> 00:54:16.829 Joanne Donn: No, because the unit's that good. I'm like, you know what? I don't care. 00:54:16.829 --> 00:54:20.218 Joanne Donn: I'll just wear thicker air plugs. It's fine. Totally worth it. 00:54:21.118 --> 00:54:25.623 Joanne Donn: Pack talk, so good. Use what you like. You got what you got. 00:54:26.088 --> 00:54:32.506 Joanne Donn: Where I draw that line and where I will be really insistent and assertive is 00:54:32.506 --> 00:54:39.766 Joanne Donn: when I see people giving other people bad gear advice or incorrect advice. 00:54:39.766 --> 00:54:42.828 Joanne Donn: And I don't mean, oh, you should get this helmet because it's cool. 00:54:43.292 --> 00:54:45.336 Joanne Donn: You should recommend things to your friends because it's cool. 00:54:45.794 --> 00:54:48.917 Joanne Donn: But it's when you say things like, and this is something I read recently, 00:54:49.388 --> 00:54:52.824 Joanne Donn: oh, my Vans, They're great riding shoes. 00:54:54.333 --> 00:55:00.046 Joanne Donn: I put out a comment on that. I said, vans don't offer any protection on your 00:55:00.046 --> 00:55:07.493 Joanne Donn: motorcycle. Just FYI, there's no protection built in for you when you wear them. 00:55:08.318 --> 00:55:09.316 Robin Dean: Cotton skin. 00:55:09.769 --> 00:55:11.226 Brian Wringer: They'll just fly off. 00:55:11.359 --> 00:55:17.182 Joanne Donn: Just so you know that. I didn't even go that deep. I just said there's zero protective value. 00:55:17.501 --> 00:55:22.775 Joanne Donn: I would not recommend even looking at them for motorcycle footwear. 00:55:22.775 --> 00:55:25.773 Robin Dean: Well, nothing's going to happen. They're never going to crash. 00:55:26.116 --> 00:55:31.706 Joanne Donn: I hope not. This was someone asking about a rider who was recommending them 00:55:32.170 --> 00:55:38.075 Joanne Donn: as riding shoes with protection because the other The person asked, 00:55:38.075 --> 00:55:39.524 Joanne Donn: how's the ankle protection? 00:55:39.983 --> 00:55:44.940 Joanne Donn: And they said, it's okay. That's when I commented, no, it's not okay. 00:55:45.346 --> 00:55:50.629 Joanne Donn: You need to know that they have none. They're okay for her because she wants to wear them. 00:55:50.937 --> 00:55:55.425 Joanne Donn: Awesome. If you want to wear them, flomp them, love them. But don't you dare 00:55:55.425 --> 00:56:00.834 Joanne Donn: tell somebody that the protection is okay when there isn't any. 00:56:01.194 --> 00:56:04.865 Robin Dean: They're really great in the top case when you get to the restaurant and you 00:56:04.865 --> 00:56:05.855 Robin Dean: change out of your boots. 00:56:06.314 --> 00:56:11.895 Joanne Donn: Right. So when I see people saying incorrect things or false things about gear 00:56:11.895 --> 00:56:15.939 Joanne Donn: from a safety standpoint or a function, that's when I will step in. 00:56:16.409 --> 00:56:22.055 Robin Dean: Similar banter at higher revs can be found via the Gear Chick website or by 00:56:22.055 --> 00:56:23.520 Robin Dean: emailing Joanne directly. 00:56:23.677 --> 00:56:27.817 Robin Dean: That email address is help at gearchick.com. 00:56:28.253 --> 00:56:30.789 Robin Dean: And what is it on Instagram? The Gear Chick? 00:56:31.236 --> 00:56:35.102 Joanne Donn: No, that's TikTok on Insta and everywhere else. It's 00:56:49.196 --> 00:56:54.400 Robin Dean: I've already spun the wheel, Brian. What did we land on for segment three, 00:56:54.859 --> 00:56:57.448 Robin Dean: the alliteration grab baguette? Does anybody want to hear some French music? 00:56:57.901 --> 00:57:00.879 Brian Wringer: I'm in a cafe eating snails right now. It's amazing. 00:57:16.249 --> 00:57:21.775 Brian Wringer: So wonderfully dumb. Okay, this week, we pulled a G out of the hat, 00:57:22.210 --> 00:57:26.117 Brian Wringer: and that stands for G equals Greasy Gambit. 00:57:26.442 --> 00:57:27.992 Brian Wringer: What does that mean? I hear you cry. 00:57:28.416 --> 00:57:30.651 Brian Wringer: I have an answer. I'm not sure it's going to be illuminating. All right. 00:57:31.092 --> 00:57:35.324 Brian Wringer: Rabbit hole risks we roll the dice on while elbow deep in a wrenching effort. 00:57:35.759 --> 00:57:39.527 Brian Wringer: So what's your mechanical Hail Mary? What's your mechanical save? 00:57:39.857 --> 00:57:41.982 Brian Wringer: What's your mechanical tragedy? Is that what I'm hearing? 00:57:42.435 --> 00:57:47.921 Robin Dean: What risks have you taken while you're deep into the wrenching effort at any given moment? 00:57:48.275 --> 00:57:53.009 Robin Dean: What was the risk that you took? He was like, well, I mean, my soda's right. 00:57:53.009 --> 00:57:57.952 Robin Dean: It's just a couple inches further. I know I can hold this wrench while I get the beer, you know. 00:57:58.370 --> 00:58:02.310 Brian Wringer: I do a lot of wrenching. We'll see what you guys have. But I referred to earlier, 00:58:02.763 --> 00:58:05.224 Brian Wringer: removing and replacing the engine in a, 00:58:05.789 --> 00:58:15.598 Brian Wringer: 1983 Suzuki GS850G, the heaviest shaft drive engine Suzuki made in the 80s by myself. 00:58:15.725 --> 00:58:17.972 Brian Wringer: Oh, that was a physical risk. 00:58:18.419 --> 00:58:25.153 Brian Wringer: It was a rough one. I've done it with assistance before, and I probably should not do it by myself. 00:58:25.594 --> 00:58:28.943 Brian Wringer: The second one is a risk that I've run many times. 00:58:29.379 --> 00:58:33.149 Brian Wringer: And when you own vintage bikes, you get really good at dealing with fasteners 00:58:33.149 --> 00:58:35.874 Brian Wringer: that are messed up or snap off or whatever. 00:58:36.316 --> 00:58:41.627 Brian Wringer: And so many times I've had to just go ahead and take that risk of removing the 00:58:42.045 --> 00:58:43.769 Brian Wringer: exhaust bolts on an engine. 00:58:44.210 --> 00:58:47.258 Brian Wringer: So you have two bolts holding on each exhaust pipe. 00:58:47.705 --> 00:58:52.374 Brian Wringer: Odds are about 80%. Yeah, they heat cycle, they get brittle, 00:58:52.832 --> 00:58:54.089 Brian Wringer: and they're going to break. 00:58:54.489 --> 00:58:58.103 Brian Wringer: Whatever you do, you're going to break at least one. You just have to be ready. 00:58:58.561 --> 00:58:59.444 Robin Dean: They just shatter. 00:58:59.903 --> 00:59:02.624 Brian Wringer: Yeah, just really work on your drill skills. 00:59:03.095 --> 00:59:06.354 Brian Wringer: Have a selection of left-handed drills, just be ready for that. 00:59:06.354 --> 00:59:07.641 Brian Wringer: But that's always a gamble. 00:59:08.099 --> 00:59:12.024 Brian Wringer: One I've run regularly, you know, no matter how much you put on them, 00:59:12.024 --> 00:59:15.164 Brian Wringer: no matter how much you heat or cool or whatever, you're just going to break 00:59:15.164 --> 00:59:17.846 Brian Wringer: a bunch of them every time you take an exhaust off. 00:59:18.304 --> 00:59:22.794 Brian Wringer: Robin, we've been through many greasy gamuts. We've decrypted many of them here 00:59:22.794 --> 00:59:24.928 Brian Wringer: on this very show. What's your favorite? 00:59:25.346 --> 00:59:29.374 Robin Dean: Five came to mind because I was counting the ways that I can screw up my wrenching process. 00:59:29.845 --> 00:59:34.694 Robin Dean: I do a lot of wrenching too, and it's just my odds are not as good with Brian 00:59:34.694 --> 00:59:36.637 Robin Dean: because the calm doesn't always stay. 00:59:37.095 --> 00:59:47.284 Robin Dean: The first one I think of is the need to use my stressed member engine on the BMW 00:59:48.366 --> 00:59:55.974 Robin Dean: with jack stands to hold the front end off the ground, or at least as a backup 00:59:55.974 --> 00:59:59.320 Robin Dean: method while I pull the front tire off to change rubber. 00:59:59.767 --> 01:00:04.504 Robin Dean: The price of that bike now it's got no wheel on it up front and everything's 01:00:04.504 --> 01:00:06.141 Robin Dean: able to tour you could see it sort of 01:00:06.611 --> 01:00:10.434 Robin Dean: shimmy shimmy you know like it's being held in place by coat hangers sort of 01:00:10.434 --> 01:00:13.934 Robin Dean: diagonally and now and then you hear a scooch and it changes position yeah i 01:00:13.934 --> 01:00:19.353 Robin Dean: didn't like that at all that's one another would be the broken 01:00:19.818 --> 01:00:25.104 Robin Dean: carburetor diaphragm on my honda hawk gt 01:00:26.017 --> 01:00:30.284 Robin Dean: that i decided at least I know it's there now. I was wondering what that backfire was. 01:00:30.609 --> 01:00:33.651 Robin Dean: I'm going to go ahead and take this to track day and did. 01:00:34.348 --> 01:00:38.591 Robin Dean: Every throttle roll-off with a shotgun blast. People were freaked out. 01:00:38.904 --> 01:00:40.072 Robin Dean: They didn't know who it was. 01:00:40.454 --> 01:00:42.638 Robin Dean: They didn't know why. That was a good one. 01:00:43.021 --> 01:00:44.803 Brian Wringer: Keep them off your ass? I mean, you know. 01:00:45.203 --> 01:00:50.681 Robin Dean: Yeah, probably the grand finale was that helicoil incident where you didn't 01:00:50.681 --> 01:00:59.168 Robin Dean: know that I didn't have what I didn't know I needed, which is a variable speed drill. 01:00:59.348 --> 01:01:00.585 Brian Wringer: Oh, I remember that. 01:01:00.713 --> 01:01:07.969 Robin Dean: So the ignorance of a single speed drill just augering out the port for this 01:01:08.195 --> 01:01:09.623 Robin Dean: stupid piece of plastic. 01:01:10.088 --> 01:01:15.237 Robin Dean: All it is is an ignition coil cover, but ruthlessly just 01:01:15.706 --> 01:01:19.166 Robin Dean: boring out, you know, like that was a rough one. 01:01:19.305 --> 01:01:24.181 Robin Dean: Those are my three biggest risks. One of them unknown that I would say, Joanne, what do you got? 01:01:24.634 --> 01:01:28.105 Joanne Donn: It's been a while since I've had a space to work on my own motorcycle. 01:01:28.570 --> 01:01:34.676 Joanne Donn: But the last thing I did was like real wrenching was installing crash bars by 01:01:34.676 --> 01:01:38.936 Joanne Donn: SW Motec on my street triple at that time when I was looking, 01:01:38.936 --> 01:01:42.490 Joanne Donn: the only ones who made crash bars for my bike that look good. 01:01:42.949 --> 01:01:46.856 Joanne Donn: They blend right in. I mean, sure, they do look kind of weird, 01:01:46.856 --> 01:01:52.996 Joanne Donn: like on a sport bike to have that crash bar, but it blends in. It works. I love it. 01:01:53.396 --> 01:01:59.196 Joanne Donn: And yeah, we had to unscrew, right, those massive bolts from the engine case 01:01:59.196 --> 01:02:00.827 Joanne Donn: because that's where it bolts in. 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.396 Joanne Donn: And we just did it in the garage, Evan and I together. We're like, 01:02:04.396 --> 01:02:07.410 Joanne Donn: all right, well, here's the torque wrench. I bought a torque wrench. 01:02:07.874 --> 01:02:10.996 Joanne Donn: I have the service manual. So I just looked up the specs. I'm like, 01:02:10.996 --> 01:02:13.888 Joanne Donn: well, it looks like it's holding. 01:02:14.352 --> 01:02:20.126 Joanne Donn: It's working. It works. It was first time, but every component on my bike I've 01:02:20.126 --> 01:02:21.667 Joanne Donn: installed for the first time. 01:02:22.120 --> 01:02:26.781 Joanne Donn: New taillights, new signals. I've never done that. 01:02:27.060 --> 01:02:34.664 Joanne Donn: That was fun. Like trying to figure out how to adapt the new lights to the old. Never did that. 01:02:35.111 --> 01:02:36.539 Brian Wringer: It's an adventure every time, huh? 01:02:36.974 --> 01:02:43.026 Joanne Donn: It's an adventure every time. On my old SV, when I installed a controller for 01:02:43.026 --> 01:02:47.562 Joanne Donn: my heated jacket liner on the dash of my SV, I had to drill a hole. 01:02:48.026 --> 01:02:51.822 Joanne Donn: They sell a knob where it's just a knob to... 01:02:52.362 --> 01:02:57.558 Joanne Donn: Change the heat volume of your heated jacket. And we had to drill a hole, 01:02:58.016 --> 01:03:01.006 Joanne Donn: mount it in there. And then first time. 01:03:01.354 --> 01:03:02.457 Robin Dean: On the gauge cluster? 01:03:02.910 --> 01:03:06.927 Joanne Donn: To the left of it. On the edge, on the SV, right, there's a little black plastic. 01:03:07.120 --> 01:03:07.444 Robin Dean: Yeah. 01:03:07.647 --> 01:03:10.782 Joanne Donn: Just a nice little blank spot. And that's where we drilled the hole. 01:03:11.246 --> 01:03:12.308 Robin Dean: Nobody knows what's under there. 01:03:12.761 --> 01:03:13.597 Brian Wringer: It's a bold move. 01:03:13.881 --> 01:03:17.564 Joanne Donn: It was one of the best accessories I've ever, ever installed. 01:03:17.564 --> 01:03:20.546 Joanne Donn: No control on my body, just right on the dashboard. 01:03:21.004 --> 01:03:24.272 Joanne Donn: You know, I had a dial from like 1 to 10. So great. 01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:27.773 Brian Wringer: Have you bled on your motorcycle like Robin did earlier? 01:03:28.226 --> 01:03:30.536 Joanne Donn: I broke my foot when I crashed. 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.524 Brian Wringer: That doesn't count. All right, so we're at the afterwards, the wind down, 01:03:34.524 --> 01:03:39.000 Brian Wringer: the what's happening, the what's happening next, the look back, the look forward. 01:03:39.458 --> 01:03:42.804 Brian Wringer: We've covered a lot of territory today. We talked about winter coming up. 01:03:42.804 --> 01:03:44.240 Brian Wringer: We talked about all the news. 01:03:44.693 --> 01:03:49.197 Brian Wringer: We gave some advice. I hope it was good advice about tires, about suspension. 01:03:49.655 --> 01:03:53.304 Brian Wringer: What are we up to next time? Robin, it's your turn. What are we talking about 01:03:53.304 --> 01:03:56.093 Brian Wringer: next time? What's on your mind? Let's get it out in the open. 01:03:56.547 --> 01:04:03.797 Robin Dean: My vague notion is going to delve into one of the many quotes that I like to use on a regular basis. 01:04:04.249 --> 01:04:07.517 Robin Dean: It's not what you do. It's how you do it. 01:04:07.970 --> 01:04:13.502 Robin Dean: We're going to bring that into some notion of maybe a more exacting subject 01:04:13.781 --> 01:04:15.575 Robin Dean: for the next episode. Does that do it for you? 01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.833 Brian Wringer: Very mysterious. I like that. 01:04:18.291 --> 01:04:22.575 Robin Dean: It could be DIY. It could be writing style. It could be courses taken. 01:04:23.040 --> 01:04:27.004 Robin Dean: It could be wearing a disguise into a biker bar to learn how the other half 01:04:27.004 --> 01:04:28.340 Robin Dean: live. It could be anything. 01:04:28.793 --> 01:04:32.108 Brian Wringer: The workings of your mind are a mystery and an enigma forever. 01:04:32.560 --> 01:04:33.355 Robin Dean: It's a palace. 01:04:33.802 --> 01:04:35.637 Brian Wringer: It's a swamp. Shall we get out of here? 01:04:36.080 --> 01:04:36.496 Robin Dean: Let's go.